Bugz
- 11 Jun 2007 08:49
HARRYCAT
- 03 Jan 2016 10:26
- 1150 of 1468
As a shareholder, the question is whether it's worth buying a lot more at 20p, without having to wait years for a return on the investment?
cynic
- 03 Jan 2016 10:40
- 1151 of 1468
guess it depends on how many you already have and at what price
i think this one will be a winner, though one can never be certain (surprise surprise) and the timescale is an even greater unknown
greekman
- 05 Jan 2016 08:49
- 1152 of 1468
As expected trades very low due to no one wanting to buy until they see how many they are going to get under the offer, which I am certain will be well over subscribed.
After that I expect fireworks!!!!!!
HARRYCAT
- 05 Jan 2016 08:59
- 1153 of 1468
Why buy now when you can definitely buy at 20p? Imo, until this share subscription is over, the sp isn't going anywhere. The offer is like for like, so you can buy the same number of shares as you hold.The worry for AFC is that not enough investors will take up the offer, in which case my understanding is that the offer will be withdrawn.
required field
- 06 Jan 2016 15:20
- 1154 of 1468
Well...I'm not doing it....not enough discount...and the shares might go sub 20p....just not worth it...why the hell did they not do this when it was above 50p ?...I would have probably gone along with it then...I suppose that you could think that there will be a rebound post offer,...but in this market...far from certain....very disappointing this drop....
cynic
- 07 Jan 2016 10:26
- 1155 of 1468
RF - i agree .... with current sp at 21/23, why would i want more at 20 when there is a strong likelihood that i'll be able to buy at 20 or less in the open market within a very short time
HARRYCAT
- 11 Jan 2016 14:57
- 1156 of 1468
Jan 8th was the cutoff date for the new take up, so just a matter of waiting now to see if enough investors have subscribed.
VICTIM
- 11 Jan 2016 14:59
- 1157 of 1468
Hargreaves lansdown saying 13th is their last date , strangely .
skinny
- 11 Jan 2016 15:03
- 1158 of 1468
From
here
"The record date for the Shareholder Offer is 5.00 p.m. on 14 December 2015 and the latest date for acceptance of the Shareholder Offer is 11 a.m. on 15 January 2016. "
HARRYCAT
- 11 Jan 2016 15:04
- 1159 of 1468
Interesting. Strange that Selftrade/Equiniti required instructions before close of business on the 8th.
May be in nominee accounts some brokers are slow or need more time to collate the info for submission???
VICTIM
- 11 Jan 2016 15:06
- 1160 of 1468
Same as TD Waterhouse maybe the difference in volumes at each Co .
skinny
- 11 Jan 2016 15:07
- 1161 of 1468
It just depends on differing internal processing time for different brokers.
- but the key date company wise is 15 January.
HARRYCAT
- 11 Jan 2016 15:20
- 1162 of 1468
So the wait is longer than I thought........damn!
HARRYCAT
- 13 Jan 2016 11:37
- 1163 of 1468
Bearing in mind that there is going to be massive dilution, not sure why this is up. Perhaps it's just positive sentiment......Good volume this morning.
greekman
- 13 Jan 2016 15:54
- 1164 of 1468
Hi Harrycat,
The thing is that there won't be a massive dilution.
They have subscribed to 12,368,449 shares with a further 5,631,551 shares making a total of 18,000,000 new shares.
As the shares already in issue are 289,000,000 the extra shares are approx 6.25% of that total, also of course they have now more cash in hand therefore raising the companies value somewhat.
Not making light of the dilution, just showing that its not as bad as it might look, even if the offer is fully taken up, which I have sure it will be.
Regards Greek.
greekman
- 14 Jan 2016 09:18
- 1165 of 1468
http://www.greenbiz.com/article/fuel-cells-2-billion-secret-clean-economy
Also the government has already asked companies to either cut or even stop production if the weather gets bad in order to keep the lights on for the general publics safety.
We all know that the colder it becomes the less likely it is for the wind to blow, hence our next to useless wind farms become redundant.
I remember a few years ago when we had over a month will almost nil power being produced by wind power and that was when spare capacity was higher than it is today.
More and more companies are starting to look at fuel cells for the obvious reason of cost and now more for security of power.
Afc could be just about right in their timing for meg orders, once of course the Kore is fully proven and production is geared up to increase.
VICTIM
- 14 Jan 2016 12:11
- 1166 of 1468
Funny old game this we have 860,000 buys verses 5000 sells and its slightly down , last few days more buys than sells .
HARRYCAT
- 14 Jan 2016 12:21
- 1167 of 1468
Thanks for the above input Greek. The percentage of dilution is interesting and presumably why the sp hasn't settled at 20p. There is still a risk that the fund raising will be called off due to lack of take up by retail investors. You can't blame AFC for preferring the institutional investors, who are going to be less risk averse at the moment.
greekman
- 14 Jan 2016 13:04
- 1168 of 1468
Hi Harrycat,
Agree re the institutional investors being preferred as it makes sense.
Many companies would have just left it at that, so it is good to see AFC not ignoring such as ourselves.
Still feel there will be a full take up, with many being disappointed that they will not be given the shares they have applied for.
HARRYCAT
- 15 Jan 2016 11:39
- 1169 of 1468
Well, my cash has been taken by my broker, so I assume I now own shed loads more AFC shares, which presumably implies the take up was great enough to go ahead with the sale. The only way is up now.......surely??? ;o)