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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

ExecLine - 11 Jul 2011 18:32 - 11506 of 81564

Just how big is the News of the World's parent company, News International, and how does it relate to Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation?

Fred1new - 11 Jul 2011 19:09 - 11507 of 81564

Hays,

Being an innocent, why is Cameron referring the News Corporation to the Competition Board and why is Murdock withdraw it previous position of hiving off Sky News?

They are not trying to deals in smoke filled rooms.


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The question is, whether Murdock is an appropriate persons to be a chairman or CEO of any company.

Suggest you read the following:

I have cut and pasted a small amount. But you can read the whole article at::



http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/11/news-corp-shareholders-attack-murdoch

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News Corp investors attack Murdoch
Rupert Murdoch accused of 'egregious' behaviour for using firm as 'family candy jar' in lawsuit that claims it is 'inconceivable' he was unaware of phone hacking at News of the World

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Rupert Murdoch, who has been accused of 'nepotism and corporate governance failures'. The lawsuit says: 'These revelations show a culture run amuck within News Corp and a board that provides no effective review'. Photograph: Sipa Press/Rex Features
A powerful group of News Corp's shareholders have accused Rupert Murdoch of "egregious" behaviour and treating his media empire like a "family candy jar".

The shareholder group, which includes banks and pension funds, accused Murdoch of "rampant nepotism" and using News Corp resources for "his own personal and political objectives".

The institutional shareholders, led by the Amalgamated Bank, said it was "inconceivable" that Murdoch would not have been aware of rampant phone hacking at the News of the World.

"It is inconceivable that [James] Murdoch and his fellow board members would not have been aware of the illicit news gathering practices. And yet, the board took no real action to investigate the allegations until 7 July 2011, when Murdoch selected two of his co-directors to deal with the imbroglio," the shareholders said in a legal filing in Delaware, where News Corp is registered.

"These revelations should not have taken years to uncover and stop," the filing adds. "[They] show a culture run amuck within News Corp and a board that provides no effective review or oversight."

The shareholders noted that Rebekah Brooks, chief executive of News International and editor of the News of the World at the time of the hacking, was "consistently promoted even while the scandal was unfolding".

The legal filing is an update to an earlier lawsuit against the appointment of Elisabeth Murdoch to News Corp's board following the $615m (383m) acquisition of her Shine Group production company.

"News Corp's behaviour has become an egregious collection of nepotism and corporate governance failures, with a board completely unwilling to provide even the slightest level of adult supervision," said Jay Eisenhofer, a Grant & Eisenhofer lawyer representing the shareholder group.


dreamcatcher - 11 Jul 2011 19:12 - 11508 of 81564

Send your old news of the world's to me please. Selling for 30 on ebay.
If they have had chips in they are not wanted.
The shelves were empty in mins on Sunday.

Fred1new - 11 Jul 2011 19:14 - 11509 of 81564

A company is only as good as its leaders.

That also applies to a government.

News Corporation seems to me to be a corrupt organisation and corrupted those who had contact with it.

But that is the result or price of political PR.

dreamcatcher - 11 Jul 2011 19:23 - 11510 of 81564

Fred,Your talking about the news corporation. Forget about DC, I know its hard.

Fred1new - 11 Jul 2011 19:49 - 11511 of 81564

DC,

Cameron has cosied up to Murdock and his lackeys. Prepared to accept their practices.


In my mind and others was aware of what Coulson had been up to and to a degree complicit when he hired him for his "use".

He is a blown flush.

What others have done in the past is irrelevant, many think that Cameron was continuing the practices up to the present moment. I do not think he fit for purpose.

Some say he is supposed to be Prime minister.

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Fred1new - 11 Jul 2011 19:50 - 11512 of 81564

DC, can't you bear to write his name.

8-)

dreamcatcher - 11 Jul 2011 19:57 - 11513 of 81564

You love it since I have come along.All those DC,DC,DC,DC,DC.

dreamcatcher - 11 Jul 2011 20:41 - 11514 of 81564

Your not a coronation street fan are you Fred, seems very quiet. Dc won't be on there tonight.

Haystack - 11 Jul 2011 22:30 - 11515 of 81564

A plan is underway to re-launch the News of the World newspaper just one day after the title was closed by owner Rupert Murdoch.

According to reports in The Independent, Susan Douglas, a former editor of the Sunday Express and deputy editor of The Sunday Times, is at the centre of a consortium of media and business figures attempting to put a rescue package together.

What we are talking about is saving the freedom of the press for ordinary people, who are not going to read the Financial Times, or even The Independent or The Guardian. I think its really important and worth doing, she said.

Reports claim that Ms Douglas has already been involved in talks with leading media owners and venture capitalists. She urged that a rescue attempt would need to be made quickly before the opportunity to save the title is lost.

Part of Douglas plans would involve recruiting former News of the World staff who have been invited to apply for roles within News International.

Speaking to Yahoo! News, William Spencer, former digital editor at the News of the World, said the move was fantastic.

I would absolutely want to continue working on the News of the World publication, whether its part of News International or not. Its a classic, iconic brand and it deserves to live on.

From a personal point of view though I think its too soon. We need to know the truth about these allegations and let the dust settle, but if somebody turned round to me tomorrow and asked me if I wanted to still be digital editor and continue working for the title and if the allegations were untrue - then absolutely.

The consortium would have to convince Rupert Murdoch to sell the News of the World title or face a legal challenge but they argue that public support would play a part in rescuing the paper.

Fred1new - 12 Jul 2011 08:24 - 11516 of 81564

What we are talking about is saving the freedom of the press for ordinary people, who are not going to read the Financial Times, or even The Independent or The Guardian. I think its really important and worth doing, she said.

I would interpret this as "we can make another load of cash" by printing salacious rubbish for the gullible, once again.

Adult comics with infantile content.

I didn't know the Express had editors, gave up reading it and the Mail 45 years ago

Would hesitate to put them in my compost heap.


Fred1new - 12 Jul 2011 08:55 - 11517 of 81564

Fascinating to see how the Muddydock empire unravels.

Amazing how you can get so many crooked "journalist" in more than one bag without knowing.

Perhaps, Muddy didn't do the usual standard of investigation before hiring them.

Or is it, once again, "birds of a feather" flocking together.

I think it would be interesting to Cameron, Osborne's and tory head quarter's private E-mails during the period up to the last elections.

Was it a party ijn the hands of Muddy and Asches?

8-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Fred1new - 12 Jul 2011 17:24 - 11518 of 81564

Hays,

"Haystack [Send an email to Haystack] [View Haystack's profile] - 07 Jul 2011 18:51 - 11395 of 11519
Fred
As you are so keen on picking people up on their spelling, it is Murdoch and NOT Murdock!
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I think he will still take over the company that is spelt BSKYB and NOT SKY B.!



Haven't received a correction of the first statement, and just wonder if you are long on short on Murdock and BSKYB.

Fred1new - 12 Jul 2011 17:27 - 11519 of 81564

PS.

Cameron seems to be spending a lot of time out of the HP.

I thought he would be lapping up the limelight.

Somebody suggested that he may be buying a paper shredder!

dreamcatcher - 12 Jul 2011 17:36 - 11520 of 81564


YE,HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
, 18:00, Tuesday 12 July 2011

Oil traded flat on Tuesday after the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) said global demand will be the highest ever this year, although the "unsteady" global economy may slow demand more than previously thought.

Brent crude, which is used to price many international oil varieties, rose just four cents to $117.20 per barrel on the ICE Futures exchange in London by 5pm.

Analysts and investors pay special attention to world demand forecasts. The expectation that China and other developing nations will keep using more crude has supported prices this year despite weak gasoline consumption in the US and a festering credit crisis in Europe (Chicago Options: ^REURTRUSD - news) that has raised concerns about international demand for oil.

While OPEC thinks global demand will continue to increase this year to the highest levels ever, the monthly report it released on Tuesday said that demand won't grow as much as it previously expected. The cartel said daily world consumption will increase this year by 1.36m barrels - down from a previous estimate of 1.38m barrels - to an average 88.18m barrels.

OPEC said it cut demand expectations "as the unsteady global economy has added risks to the forecast". The report also said it's hard to estimate how much oil the US will consume this year. Gasoline consumption fell ahead of the summer driving season as retail prices approached a national average of $4 per gallon. A gallon of regular has since dropped by nearly 35 cents to a national average of $3.636 on Tuesday, according to AAA, Wright Express (NYSE: WXS - news) and Oil Price Information Service. It's still 92.1 cents higher than the same time last year.

Meanwhile, the Labor Department said on Tuesday that job openings were flat in May, suggesting that hiring may not pick up this summer. The US trade deficit also jumped in May to the highest level since October 2008, primarily because of a surge in the price of oil imports at that time.

In Europe markets slumped on fears that Greece's financial crisis would spread to Italy and Spain. The dollar continued to rise against other major currencies. Oil, which is priced in US currency, tends to fall as the dollar rises and makes crude more expensive for investors holding foreign money.

Fred1new - 12 Jul 2011 19:24 - 11521 of 81564

Dreams.

It's all right, it's alright!

We are alright, Cameron and Osborne are at the helm of the good ship UK.

All we have to do is up anchor and float away.

Pity the Mental Hospitals. have closed.


Fred1new - 12 Jul 2011 19:26 - 11522 of 81564

PS.

I thought China GDP is forecast lower for this year than expected.

That could reduce oil price increases slightly, but b. European and UK recovery.

dreamcatcher - 12 Jul 2011 19:48 - 11523 of 81564

Simples - more oil used = more pounds to me

dreamcatcher - 13 Jul 2011 06:54 - 11524 of 81564

Britons rely on credit cards 21 days after payday

tweet0Print..Topics:Credit Cards.Paul Farrow, 7:15, Wednesday 13 July 2011

A quarter of Brits use credit cards to tide them over until the next payday, according to moneysupermarket.

Britain's credit card crunch day' when people resort to using credit cards as a fallback for when cash in their current account runs low is on average 21 days after they've been paid each month.

Research from moneysupermarket.com, showed that 11 million people, are turning to their credit card as a fallback when they run out of funds in their current account.

Of this group, whilst the average fallback day is 21 days after payday, one in ten (9 per cent) pull out the plastic less than 15 days after they have been paid, meaning they will be funding the remaining fortnight on their cards.

A further third say they use their credit card for big ticket items, such as holidays, which they say they may not be able to repay immediately.

Kevin Mountford, head of banking at moneysupermarket.com said: "With most of the population feeling the pinch at the moment, it's no surprise to see so many people reliant on credit so early in the month. However, unless you plan this properly and know you're able to pay off your balance, this can be a dangerous trap to fall into."

skinny - 13 Jul 2011 08:24 - 11525 of 81564

Ouch! Mum felt her pelvis crack as she had baby.
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