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Empyrean Energy (EME) (EME)     

PapalPower - 21 Nov 2005 08:12

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Size=283*18Chart.aspx?Provider=Intra&Code=EME&Size=big.chart?symb=uk%3Aeme&compidx=aaaaa%3AEmpyrean Energy

Web site : http://www.empyreanenergy.com

niceonecyril - 24 Oct 2007 06:36 - 1151 of 2087

Yes the news is not good, although the lower of S/L1 was thought to be iffy, not
abandoned so once this level is completed they will test(or even drill horizontal)the
upper levels?
cyril

Big Al - 24 Oct 2007 07:30 - 1152 of 2087

My, my. There's a surprise. Even after a good frac, it's still too tight.

So the follow-up question is why the delay on the timing of the other zones on Sugarloaf-1? It should surely follow on from the first test, successful or not. Maybe these zones show the same characteristic as the first?

As for Kennedy-1, hre we go with the old "gas levels" thing. They undoubtedly show formations contain gas, but it means nothing when considering whether that gas can flow over time to produce a commercially successful well.

10p anyone?

cynic - 24 Oct 2007 08:06 - 1153 of 2087

my post 1135 has proved itself pretty accurate ...... EME couldn't catch a fly if it was made from fly-paper ..... AVOID

niceonecyril - 24 Oct 2007 08:23 - 1154 of 2087

Cynic as i answered then EME are only junior partners in this stock, so i feel in this case your being a little harsh. Having gone to the expense of drilling to such depths,is anyone seriously suggesting that they would not test ?
Yes todays news is not good but not unexpected,its the upper layers which gives the most likelyhood of success, particularly the level 1.I feel it will recover once things settle down,to what level i haven't a clue.It is a exployer and with it
are risks,as i stated i did not top or will i increase my holding as it is just that.
cyril

hlyeo98 - 24 Oct 2007 08:26 - 1155 of 2087

''The lack of significant hydrocarbon recovery and the flow pressures seen to date indicate that this deepest zone of the Austin Chalk is unlikely to be commercially productive at this location.'' This shows that the Sugarloaf region is most likely a dud! SELL!

cynic - 24 Oct 2007 08:27 - 1156 of 2087

sorry, but this company has not just developed the bad habit of consistently failing to deliver, it is addicted to doing so ..... i repeat AVOID

there are plenty of other E&P companies that are far more promising, even if many of them will also fail

blackdown - 24 Oct 2007 08:34 - 1157 of 2087

Perhaps AMER falls into the latter category cynic?

niceonecyril - 24 Oct 2007 08:36 - 1158 of 2087

hyleo98, if you take the trouble of checking you will find that level1 is S/Kane which is a proven discovery(a very large one at that),and is the reason for me
(along with Eagle 13/38mmbo proven)sticking with this share.Patience and a lot
of it will imho be rewarded?

cyril

hushpuppy - 24 Oct 2007 08:39 - 1159 of 2087

Really Al you are full of negative crap. They didn't just decide to frac for fun, lots of wells in this area have proved successful AFTER fraccing.

They have just spent $1.5 million drilling the hole so they will test all the potentially productive zones. Guess its a sort of risk - reward thing, bit like playing the stockmarket I guess. If the worst zone (of three) that they felt might not flow does not, it really is not that important. Certainly not worth the MM's dropping the share price 10%, but of course they don't know the history.

As to the "gas levels" it certainly does not prove commerciability but it is at least reassuring to know that this great long horizontal hole we are drilling actually contains something potentially saleable rather than copious quantities of H2O!!

cynic - 24 Oct 2007 08:43 - 1160 of 2087

neither AMER or GOO have yet failed to deliver ..... from memory neither have done a damn thing yet!

lizard - 24 Oct 2007 08:47 - 1161 of 2087

blackdown- dont know about that. was it not AMER (then chp) that reckoned their Llanos block held around 400MMbbl (eq 120p per share)- only to deliver 0.

niceonecyril - 24 Oct 2007 08:52 - 1162 of 2087

hushpuppy,spot on "negative crap indeed", and as a supposed ex oiler very little substance.
cyril

cynic - 24 Oct 2007 09:27 - 1163 of 2087

hushpuppy and others ...... it may surprise that Al actually does know what he talking about from life in the industry ...... if EME (or GOO or AMER) in particular, come up with anything truly worthwhile, then it will def be a strike against the head! ..... in the meantime, invest money here (or GOO or AMER) at your peril

lizard - 24 Oct 2007 09:31 - 1164 of 2087

can rule goo out its suspended -(i hold).

niceonecyril - 24 Oct 2007 09:34 - 1165 of 2087

cynic i for one welcome "constructive alternative views and knowledge from those with experience in what ever field being discussed",that is what these boards
are about. I also read other ex-oilers who give such comments and it is for that reason why i feel Big Al's posts are as discribed.
cyril

hushpuppy - 24 Oct 2007 09:40 - 1166 of 2087

Cynic,
Have worked in the oil industry for the last 30 years and have actually worked with Al offshore in the North Sea!! However he is being unfairly bearish on EME.



cynic - 24 Oct 2007 09:43 - 1167 of 2087

time will tell!

hushpuppy - 24 Oct 2007 10:21 - 1168 of 2087

Cynic,
Buying shares in EME is a straight gamble, future performance relates purely to what the drill bit will find in the future. However at 40p and purely on a risk/reward basis EME is worth consideration.

Big Al - 24 Oct 2007 10:23 - 1169 of 2087

John - I never talk crap, be it positive or negative, and I'm very well aware no-one fracs for fun. The main point is that there is nothing positive ever to say about EME. How can one company be so unsuccessful time after time? I'm amazed anyone sticks their hard-earned cash into it.

As to gas, I've drilled plenty of water-wet wells with decent gas shows. Similarly, I've drilled plenty of horizontals in SNS and elsewhere that had no gas shows and eventually flowed 50+ mmscf/d. The lack or presence of gas often means sweet FA. I get sick of these little outfits putting a rosy glow on their RNSs by mentioning it time and again. It gives Joe Punter the idea the well is a potential gusher, whereas this is often not the case, especially with EME on the evidence of the past year or so. ;-))

Furthermore, I think folk should actually read and understand the following excerpt from the Adelphi website :

"The Sugarloaf Area of Mutual Interest (AMI) comprises a lease area of approximately 20,000 acres (80 square kilometres) in west Texas . This area falls entirely within a broad 200,000 acre area known as Sugarkane which is thought to be prospective for the well known and prolific Austin Chalk play.

The Sugarkane area is defined by regional analysis of drilling results, hydrocarbon shows and wireline log interpretation from adjacent wells. The Sugarkane discovery well located 6.6km west of Sugarloaf-1 has been producing gas and condensate steadily from a vertical well since 2006 and a nearby horizontal is due to be tested following strong hydrocarbon indications while drilling. Potential reserves have been estimated for the Sugarkane area at greater than 3 TCF of gas and approximately 500 million barrels of condensate.

The Austin Chalk play is well known in Texas and is exploited from a broad regional trend which passes just to the north of the Sugarkane area. The play shot to prominence in the early 1990's when horizontal drilling technology was first applied routinely. The reason for this was that horizontal wells of some 5,000 feet in length were able to access a much longer section of reservoir and in particular were able to intersect and drain hydrocarbons from complex fracture systems.

The Sugarkane area is still in the earliest stages of appraisal. However, it appears to be over-pressured, have relatively high matrix porosity, contain >150bbls of condensate per MMCF of gas, and be vertically fractured all of which are strongly positive signs for potential commerciality. The reason why the play had been overlooked to date is due to the overall paucity of wells on this trend, the fact that Sugarkane is some 20km south of the main Austin Chalk trend (Click here to view regional map), and the traditional thinking that the Chalk is a relatively low productivity reservoir when compared to other reservoirs targeted by previous wells drilled in this area."

What do you glean from it?

1. The Sugarkane area is NOT part of the well-known Austin Chalk trend - it lies to the south of it. I drilled it during those early 90s days when horizontal drilling opened it up as a producing area and I've drilled it as recently as 2003 near Halletsville.

2. The Sugarloaf AMI forms a small part (10%) of the wider Sugarkane area, which in total may coantain 3TCF gas and 500 lmn bbls condensate. If successful, the whole Sugarloaf area might therefore contain 0.3TCF gas and 50 mln bbls condensate. How much does EME have of that, I ask?

3. Read the final paragraph and the reason for the "paucity" of wells.


I may well be negative on this stock, but given my knowledge, the information out there on Sugarloaf, etc, I've every reason to be and the results thus far bear me out. My "crap" is based on a solid reading of the facts - yep, I repeat, the facts.

Now away back and play with your fluids, my hushpuppy son.

;-))))))

Big Al - 24 Oct 2007 10:28 - 1170 of 2087

cyril - I ain't an ex-oiler. I'm still very much involved in the drilling side of the business and have been for an awful long time. I also have a degree in Geology, etc, etc.

Facts don't lie and knowing the area makes this a gamble not worth taking IMO.

I've said before and I'll say it again. Texas is probably the most mature oil province in the world - it all started their for gawd's sake! If there were huge finds to be had they'd have been producing for decades by now.
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