Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

About time - Phone hacking: News International chief Brooks quits

We Tory scum must stick together. At least we always float to the top.

Suppose her nickname from now on maybe "Crooks".

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Hays,

I think any corrupt dealings with any of the parties, whatever the shade of confused ideology they are of, should be exposed.

The problem is that the present "leaders" (Cameron and "henchmen"), although admitting complicity, are claiming, as excuses, others did the same.
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To me that is a form of corruption. I don't want corrupt leaders, as the same "traits" will show up in their other dealings.

Also, trying to excuse the past actions with the argument "they were all doing, I was following orders. I was ordered to, is showing "moral" weakness.

I was taught at a very early age to admit and take the responsibility for my actions, right or wrong. To apologise and attempt to correct any "mistakes" made. (Not always easy to do, or done.)

Labour, if they were perverted by the "press", were wrong and need to have their actions fully exposed. To my mind, the tories have been in bed with "tory" press since before Max Aitken's time.

That is why much of the "present" press is called, "The Tory Press".

But, I have a feeling, for short time at least, the "party" is over for the "cons.".



But, I think a more important change would be that addressing the funding of all parties "sensibly".

A difficult problem which I think reasonable to approach on all party basis.

The thought of going further down USA pathway and size of funding is horrendous to me.

The biggest corruption and scandal in politics is the relationship between the Labour Party and the unions.

Hmmm?

If Rebekah Brooks had resigned a bit earlier, would we still have News of The World?

I think Murdoch took advantage if the situation to dump the NOW. He can bring out The Sun on Sunday or whatever with existing journos. He has cut his costs and may make more out of it. Good business. The NOW was a an old fashioned newspaper and probably needed to go. I would expect Murdoch to ed up with BSkyB at a later date. He is a clever businessman.

For an old git!

My wife used to work for his lawyers in the City in the 80s and go into meetings with him. He was a very sharp operator and I suspect he still is.

The NoTW was very profitable. Huge circulation and advertising revenues to match. But I'me sure he feels he can switch the readership to sunonsunday.com (registered 5 July) and make more money with less people.

He is as they say a hard nut, the same as Robert Maxwell. He will probably snuff it before he gets his sentence. lol

She used to take documents to Wapping and had to cross their picket lines. She never had any trouble. If any of male staff went to Wapping they had spare shirts at the office due to rotten tomatoes etc being thrown at them by the print workers.

This must take its toll on a man of his years, I don't care how "sharp" he was.

Hays,

Nowadays, at least the relationship with the unions is relatively open, where as the tory party has become more tribal, elitist and takes place on a square in a dark room.(with or without their trousers on.)

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I think it is a possibly cynical attempt to do that.

But, I think Murdock's press revenues will be down, as associations with him, or his entourage will stink to many.

Mind the tories always had pegs on their noses.

(Otherwise, I was told, "it would be difficult for them to bear their own company".)

I don't think he has a hope in hell of getting control of SKYB in the next 5years, if at all.

Just wondering whether his American Empire will be pruned.

When I looked up sunonsunday.com it was registered in 2007 to someone in Italy and was a music website.

Ah. I think you mean sunonsunday.co.uk. That was registered by News International 5th July this year.

He didn't say which year :-)

The web site doesn't have a host yet though.

By the way, why did you pick the nickname, "Haystack"?

I'm thinking you might be a 'Boris lookalike' or similar? Correct?

Murdoch and Junior are to be sued personally for their handling of the phone-hacking debacle, it emerged on Thursday night as the familys woes intensified on both sides of the Atlantic. They will have to answer claims personally that they neglected their fiduciary duty, rather than have News Corp defend the case as a corporate entity.

Interesting if that kicks off.

That sort of a case is a dead loss. You will never make it stick that the people at the very top of a company should know what is going on at the level we are talking about. That just looks like lawyers wasting everyone's time.