soul traders
- 15 Dec 2006 15:35
Just quick summary to bring this to your attention; more detail will hopefully follow.
This stock floated yesterday at 10p and has since doubled. It has, needless to say, suddenly become very popular on another BB.
The company is profitable already and trading on an estimated (by yours truly) forward PE for the current year of 9 at SP 20p. EDIT: Hoodless Brennan estimate EPS for Full Year 2006 will be 2.18p - see article (link below).
Free float is 11.4% of the 81.2 million shares in issue - most are held by the directors.
Extremely useful Investegate article
LINK
Extremely useful Hoodless Brennan analysis
LINK
PDYOR, etc.
dynamix
- 28 Jul 2007 12:31
- 117 of 369
oilyrag..
directors are tied in until December before they can at offload any at all..
if you read the AGM notes, they were questioned on the low wages they take from company... they said they have options on shares, and have a 3 year plan of huge growth of the investments in their own company and moving products into EU and USA..
I guess taking no wages leaves extra profit in the accounts which adds to the growth etc etc...
cynic
- 28 Jul 2007 12:32
- 118 of 369
but is there any real incentive for them not to offload market-affecting slabs come December?
dynamix
- 28 Jul 2007 12:33
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the price rise .. and the the likes of the article above.. are not factoring the move into USA .. it wasnt mentioned in Results.. or at float.. but has been mentioned at AGM... plenty more potential
dynamix
- 28 Jul 2007 12:34
- 120 of 369
maybe.. maybe not..
I guess they might want a BMW for Xmas? ;) .. but Im damn sure if they have a 3 year plan to become a major player in Europe and eventually USA.. they wont be doing a Gordon Brown and selling at the bottom lol
maddoctor
- 28 Jul 2007 12:59
- 121 of 369
wrong question but got the info
cynic
- 28 Jul 2007 13:05
- 122 of 369
US is much much tougher too
dynamix
- 28 Jul 2007 13:45
- 123 of 369
madoctor..
courtesy of JTCod on advfn..
take a look at BIP
http://www.bioxelpharma.com/docs/RA2006/BioxelPharma-2006-Annual-Report.pdf
not a Chinese co. , but have recently been given EU go ahead with no problem at all even though the purity of BIPs product is 96% against TAIH's which is 99.7%.. bodes well for TAIHs EU application..
Also note a question to the board from the AGM notes posted earlier on this thread..
Q.Chinese companies have bad reputations in terms of Drugs, what do you see yourself as
A.We are a WESTERN PHARMA COMPANY based in the PRC BUT operating to WESTERN STANDARDS at all levels. Very improtant to realise we are accountable and transparent in everything we do. And report to western standards, not PRC standards.
dynamix
- 28 Jul 2007 13:50
- 124 of 369
infact read JT's notes.. was a good read just after results...
http://www.advfn.com/cmn/fbb/thread.php3?id=13384181&from=285
maddoctor
- 28 Jul 2007 14:29
- 125 of 369
bip calling their products drugs so i take it they have been tested
report writing so small on acrobat i can hardly read it!
very interesting reading but suggests to me taih have no intellectual property and the hope is that taih can produce cheaper than others or am i wrong?
thanks for taking the trouble to reply
cynic
- 28 Jul 2007 15:21
- 126 of 369
i know i am a numbskull, but going back to the Q i raised on post 115, i reckon there are barely 10m shares for free trade .... that being so, it would seem that something like 16% of these were traded on friday! ....... surely an awful lot must have been internal fund x-trades, perhaps to massage their performance figures - i.e.seemingly to realise profits
halifax
- 28 Jul 2007 15:57
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Cynic you are right to question what appears to be yet another ramp of AIM floated Chinese companies.
cynic
- 28 Jul 2007 16:34
- 128 of 369
i didn't actually say that, but i do love the following extract from post 123 ...... "We are a WESTERN PHARMA COMPANY based in the PRC BUT operating to WESTERN STANDARDS at all levels." ...... politely put, very much politician's speak!
dynamix
- 28 Jul 2007 18:02
- 129 of 369
I dont think its a ramp, they genuinely had a huge growth in the last results which the market had not priced in since the float.. until any of the speculative news like Europe etc come firm then I wouldnt expect us to break high 30s... high 30s is fair value for the shares available..
dynamix
- 28 Jul 2007 18:03
- 130 of 369
maddoctor.. you can zoom in on acrobat you know!
maddoctor
- 28 Jul 2007 22:35
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dynamix , thanks for that info , rarely use it but will not have to sqint next time
kate bates
- 29 Jul 2007 13:36
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always good to see the derampers on board so early, watch the bitterness, they've either not bought or sold too early - usually took their 150 profit and now can't stand to see others make lots of money. The ones who have never actually held the stock are, in my eyes the real sad cretins. If only they spent their time researching stocks instead of jumping on b.boards of winning stocks trying to trick people into thinking they are concerned!! How sad are these individuals?? What do they get out of life?? They're not short, the stock cannot be shorted. I remember a certain poster on SOLA at 125p saying it was all too good to be true. Parasites.
cynic
- 29 Jul 2007 13:55
- 133 of 369
do hope that is not aimed at me, for if so, totally unwarranted .... anyone is perfectly entitled to their view and opinion, whether or not it falls in line with that of the sheep .... as for "research", imo it is often highly over-rated, always depending on what one means by the word; the only thing of interest is whether or not the share is likely to rise or fall, the view expressed hopefully being backed with some kind of logic .... btw, i suspect one could quite easily short this stock, for it only requires a holder who is prepared to lend it.
maddoctor
- 29 Jul 2007 15:06
- 134 of 369
if the criticism is aimed at me , i was asking questions because this has been on my radar for some time and my interest picked up when somebody said this company will be worth 3 a share. asking questions is NOT deramping and your reaction suggests nervousness. if this share is worth 3 it will get there no matter what i ask.
the word "hype" has been removed to take account of your sensitivities
for de-ramp go to the SER thread post 905
cynic
- 29 Jul 2007 15:45
- 135 of 369
doc ..... a lot of peeps on this BB get very uppity if you step out of the party line ...... anything that questions or disagrees is deemed by them to be de-ramping, though why the converse should not also apply beats me! ...... i get a lot of flak because i have the time and inclination to post a lot, and frequently throw cold water (common sense or reality i call it) on the hype ...... this can equally apply to stocks i hold about which i am open or those i do not, about which i am also open.
maddoctor
- 29 Jul 2007 15:50
- 136 of 369
cynic , i watch your posts often enough to know how you post and agree and disagree with you :-)))
on this one i had genuine hopes and thats why i asked the rather uninformed questions due entirely to me being a technician (or trying to be) as opposed some the fundamentals peeps. In other words i care little about the company only about the share price but do like to understand a little about what i am getting myself into!.