goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
mnamreh
- 23 Sep 2011 07:36
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skinny
- 23 Sep 2011 07:39
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I'm sure I've met women who have used this excuse.
Scientists might have explained promiscuous behaviour
Scientists have shown that inbreeding leads to female promiscuity.
greekman
- 23 Sep 2011 07:54
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Some cultures encourage interbreeding, IE cousins with cousins via arranged marriages etc.
I will say no more, re the PC brigade.
ExecLine
- 23 Sep 2011 09:45
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You just cannot believe this stuff!
How absolutely stupid are our authorities! We ought to start a thread solely to concentrate on it all.
Not only do 'travellers' not travel, or pay ANY taxes of any kind , or are ever held to be accountable for anything to anyone under any civil claims (ie. it's totally impossible to ever sue them, and a bailiff would never dare visit to seize goods to levy a claim even if you did sue them and win) but they all claim bloody benefits!
GYPSY families get benefits despite living illegally at the Dale Farm camp site.
About 25 families are claiming handouts which total 53,625 a year.
Each one claims up to 845 a year to cover council tax.
And they can claim as much as 1,300 every 12 months to rent at the 51-pitch site, even though their homes have no planning permission.
The families face eviction from the Essex site today after winn-ing an 11th-hour reprieve against bailiffs on Monday.
C Jenkin & Son, based in West Sussex, hires out 15 chalets on Dale Farm to gypsies.
A spokeswoman for the company said around six of its units were funded by the council through housing benefits.
Other mobile homes are rented out by travellers on the site.
A council spokeswoman said: People are entitled to make a claim even if the property they are renting does not have planning permission.
She confirmed the authority pays out 25 benefit claims on the illegal site and another nine on the adjacent legal site which has been virtually un- occupied for months.
Len Gridley, 52, who lives close to the camp, said: This all needs investigating.
How can nine people be claiming benefits for the legal site when it is practically empty?
Travellers last night said they were British citizens and entitled to the help.
The High Court will today hear the travellers pleas to stay after a 10-year battle with Basildon Council.
But Mr Justice Edwards- Stuart warned earlier this week: There is sadly no mileage in prolonging the agony.
Tony Ball, Basildon Council leader, had said housing benefits had stopped after it was exposed two years ago.
But after the council admitted still paying out cash, he said: I dont remember saying all claims had stopped, but was advised a number were.
mnamreh
- 23 Sep 2011 09:55
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greekman
- 23 Sep 2011 10:58
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About 25 families are claiming handouts which total 53,625 a year.
I think we can forget about a mere 53,000. I am just waiting for the headlines.
Gypsies (sorry travelers) win fight to return in the Court of Human Rights.
A total of a few quillion has been awarded in compensation, for hurt feeling, victims of persecution and harassment of a recognised minority group, loss of earnings (they lost their local customer base, you know all those farms they visit (say no more) and those driveways they resurface to a depth of 1 mm whilst saying, "It will be 4" deep gov").
Basildon Council along with Essex Police Authority have also been ordered to pay a few more quillion in compensation for illegal eviction, both authorities agreed to pay up, to save further costs.
A dedicated (taxpayer funded) group of professionals has also been established to provide counseling to those who suffered trauma from the eviction (those Police Officers, Council Officials and Bailiffs injured in the evictions, need not apply).
It is also believed that a professional 'Dog Whisper' has been appointed to counsel the travelers dogs, that are also believed to be suffering from trauma.
Basildon Council have also been ordered to build a new permanent site as it was decreed that they have a statutory duty to homeless persons to supply either a permanent dwelling or shelter.
It is understood that to save any future conflict re equality and minority issues the new site will also feature a school, hospital, crhe, leisure center and pub.
God forbid that one or more of the Gypsy's is able to prove he is an illegal alien.
mnamreh
- 23 Sep 2011 11:12
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greekman
- 23 Sep 2011 11:46
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I wonder how many people know this.
Gypsies have a code when it comes to the crime of theft.
If its from a none Gypsy, no problem.
If its from a Gypsy, totally different.
Many years ago a local Gypsy Family called 'Smith' were caught in possession of another Gypsy families horses. This followed a spate of thefts regarding Gypsy horses. That family were ostracized for many years that I know of, and probably still are.
The whole family became total outcasts, they were completely shunned by other Gypsy families, even to the extent that if they wandered into anywhere where there were other Gypsies, shops for example, they would have to leave or risk repercussions.
They were known as 'The family who steals'.
Double standards or what.
mnamreh
- 23 Sep 2011 11:53
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greekman
- 23 Sep 2011 13:09
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Mnamreh,
Your not related to any of the Greek philosophers are you, such as Pythagoras, Socrates, Aristotle, Plato etc.
Could you be from the little known Greek family of Mnamrehas or Mnamrehtle by any chance.
Note.....According to my wife, I think I am almost perfect, so I find it hard to see imperfections in my own character.
I myself know I'm not perfect, but I'm so damn close it scares me.
Of course modesty is my strongest trait.
mnamreh
- 23 Sep 2011 13:18
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greekman
- 23 Sep 2011 13:28
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Ah Diogenes, father of cynicism, so you could be right re your unspoken inference.
Haystack
- 23 Sep 2011 13:32
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I remember an account of Diogenes from The History of Western Philosophy by Bertand Russell. He is supposed have lived in a barrel. Alexander the Great visited him as he had heard of his great wisdom. Alexander said he would grant him any wish as he was such an importeant thinker. Diogenes replied that maybe Alexander could get out of his light.
mnamreh
- 23 Sep 2011 13:33
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mnamreh
- 23 Sep 2011 13:36
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Haystack
- 23 Sep 2011 13:38
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Here is a better version of the story than my recollection of a book I read 30 years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_and_Alexander
According to legend, Alexander the Great came to visit the Greek philosopher Diogenes of Sinope. Alexander wanted to fulfill a wish for Diogenes and asked him what he desired.[5] According to the version recounted by Diogenes Latius, Diogenes replied "Stand out of my light."[6] Plutarch provides a longer version of the story:
Thereupon many statesmen and philosophers came to Alexander with their congratulations, and he expected that Diogenes of Sinope also, who was tarrying in Corinth, would do likewise. But since that philosopher took not the slightest notice of Alexander, and continued to enjoy his leisure in the suburb Craneion, Alexander went in person to see him; and he found him lying in the sun. Diogenes raised himself up a little when he saw so many persons coming towards him, and fixed his eyes upon Alexander. And when that monarch addressed him with greetings, and asked if he wanted anything, "Yes," said Diogenes, "stand a little out of my sun."[7] It is said that Alexander was so struck by this, and admired so much the haughtiness and grandeur of the man who had nothing but scorn for him, that he said to his followers, who were laughing and jesting about the philosopher as they went away, "But truly, if I were not Alexander, I would be Diogenes."[8]
mnamreh
- 23 Sep 2011 13:42
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greekman
- 23 Sep 2011 15:29
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And there's me thinking that the saying, 'Whose first in the Barrel' came from an old Naval tradition.
skinny
- 23 Sep 2011 15:35
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Greek - I thought it was Annie Taylor!