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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 07 Oct 2011 09:54 - 12554 of 81564

Aids,

What are you rabbiting on about.

Economic history is interesting and the interpretation of it even more.

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Do you recall this episode

Can you remember Lamont. amd 'Black Wednesday'

This gentleman still seems to be a spokesman for the torrid party.

Perhaps, you remember the above episode.

"Ten years ago the pound was forced out of the Exchange Rate Mechanism, a system for tying its value to that of other European currencies.

Black Wednesday, as 16 September 1992 came to be known, provided one of the most memorable failures of post-war British economic policy.

It was the defining failure of John Major's government."


Osborne appears as skilful and deft as Lamont.



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Can somebody rid us of him!


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Edited. Cut and paste from article after date.

skinny - 07 Oct 2011 10:10 - 12555 of 81564

Here is a paragraph or two from Wilson's obituary - 'Pipe Dreams' from the Socialist Review.

Harold Wilson, with his cheeky, cocky demeanour, his cheerful smile and his Yorkshire burr, summed up the confidence and hope. Here was living proof that Labour could deliver a prime minister who was plainly not a MacDonald or an Attlee--a man who genuinely believed in public enterprise and public endeavour, and would not sell the pass.

The collapse came very swiftly, in the middle of the clear blue summer of 1966. First, the same Wilson who had in opposition championed the low paid and the trade unions, threw all the forces of his rhetoric against an official strike of seamen, some of the lowest paid workers in the country. When he finally beat the seamen by the most revolting witch hunt, he turned his bile, his office and his government against the entire working class movement. The same man who had derided Selwyn Lloyd, former Tory chancellor, for a 'one sided pay pause', now instituted a year long total wage freeze, enforced by law and backed by savage cuts in the public spending programme he had advocated.

In 1967 he reimposed the health prescription charges he'd abolished. In 1968 he sanctioned another, even more racist, immigration act to keep out persecuted Asians from East Africa. In 1969 he proposed to ban unofficial strikes, the first plan for anti-union laws since the war. Throughout all this he supported the barbaric US invasion of Vietnam with a passion which inspired the US president Johnson to describe him as 'another Churchill'.

aldwickk - 07 Oct 2011 10:14 - 12556 of 81564

Another smoke screen from Fred , just reply to the articular that I posted . Is it not historical fact that Gordon Brown made a complete balls up selling the Gold.

And it is also historical fact that he was one of the worst Prime minsters this country ever had.

Do you agree Fred ? or do want to carry on being a political moron .

skinny - 07 Oct 2011 10:15 - 12557 of 81564

Black Wednesday.

Black Wednesday, July 1966--the day of the cuts and the wage freeze--was named as such not by a revolutionary but by a mild mannered television journalist called John Morgan, who, like hundreds of thousands of others, had high hopes that the Labour government would lead the way to a new social order. This hope was widespread throughout the left, and it was the dashing of this hope by backsliding and grovelling to the rich and powerful which brought Wilson down so low in the eyes of so many of his former supporters.

Haystack - 07 Oct 2011 11:25 - 12558 of 81564

Fred
There is a very large parking area adjacent to the station for cycles, which is secure. You have to pay for it and why not, so many people just chain their bikes to the railings.

aldwickk
I have called the council in the past about the problem and they do nothing. They say it is not up to them. The police don't want to know nor the Highways Agency and not Transport for London who look after bus lanes etc. No public body wants to do anything about it.

The message I gave the cyclist may have been effective. I shall have to look out for his bike again, it was quite distinctive. If he stops parking there then I will add a padlock to more bikes now and then. It would be worth 99p a time to stop the parking. I know a few other people who dislike it as well. Perhaps we could all start doing it.

Bikes are bad enough riding on the pavement and jumping traffic lights and now we have to put up with them chained up all over the place. I have a friend who had the ligaments in his leg torn by a bike hitting him on the pavement. At least in central London the police do pullup and fine cyclists who jump the lights.

fine one - 07 Oct 2011 11:28 - 12559 of 81564

remind me BARCLAYS CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT YOU DID CARE WHEN YOU KNEW MR R SCOTT ABOUT NATWEST ALONG WITH OLD G PARKES GOD SAVE THE QUEEN THE SEX PISTOLS HOWS PHILIP HIS HE GOING NEXT WEEK OUR DAVE HIS THE MAN STILL KNOW FEAR IN HIS EYES THE NEXT THE DOG BOO USA LIKE A IRAN MR BLAIR WOULD LIKE A CHANGE SCOTT AIR 9/11 THANK GOD FOR THE EBC LOCAL THEN THERE THE ECB SOME SMALL COMPANY DID COMPLAIN TO GERMANY NO REPLAY THIS IS MY THANK YOU TO YOU NOT LONG BEFORE I TAKE THEM OUT

fine one - 07 Oct 2011 11:35 - 12560 of 81564

TRUST MR BROWN SELL GOLD AT 275 OZ LIKE A COUNTRY BUYS THE EURO A 1.44 ISAVE THE BANK IN ICELAND MAY DAY MAY MAY DAY COME MR BUSH NO FAER WITH MEN WE HVE TO LOOK AFTER OUR INTERST BUILD UP WHEN MEN GET THAT BIG DO YOU GET little BALLS BUT WE HAVE MR BALLS SO HARD ALONG WITH HIS MATES

skinny - 07 Oct 2011 11:35 - 12561 of 81564

MRSI?

Haystack - 07 Oct 2011 11:37 - 12562 of 81564

I remember Black Wednesday when we were bounced out of the ERM, very well. I was staying at this hotel on my honeymoon. It was certainly better than hearing all about it in London.

http://www.capestel.com/uk/index.php

I have avoided several bit of significant news by being away. When Priness Di found out the consequences of not wearing a seat belt, I was in this hotel. Lickily I was there for long enough to miss all of it including the very silly funeral.

http://www.hotels-platinum.com/mazzaro_sea_palace/eng/home.htm

Mention of such events always bring back happy memories.

I forget which hotel I was in when the miners strikes was on. But that is a happy memory even without the hotel.

mnamreh - 07 Oct 2011 11:50 - 12563 of 81564

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Haystack - 07 Oct 2011 12:39 - 12564 of 81564

I think you are right, so the best solution would be to encourage some others to do it instead of me.

mnamreh - 07 Oct 2011 12:44 - 12565 of 81564

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Fred1new - 07 Oct 2011 14:00 - 12566 of 81564

Hays,

What amuses me about the bike accident, is how it is construed.

If I walked into a bike, drunk or sober, I would possibly blame the inanimate object for jumping out unexpectedly.

After a moments pause, I would realise I was being stupid to be irritated with the bike and project my anger (at my own clumsiness) onto another person.

8-)

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Aids

Reflect on some of your possible heroes, Maggie and her Poll tax calamity.
Perhaps, it was her Political suicide note.

The lady, who was responsible for the destruction of much of the UK heavy industry, which could be considered as part of our economic problems to-day.

Have a look ar Churchill, who may be another of your heroes.

He was a Euro enthusiast, but De Gaulle didn't like the "attempt at a British political takeover of Europe for their own gain.". The latter blocked his or the UKs approaches.

But, when you think of Churchill, remember Gallipoli and his other debacles.
In addition, when, he was laughed out of Tonypandy.

(However, he was partially responsible for social reforms ahead of his last party.)

I think the majority of us on reflection have feet of clay and have made many mistakes, some bigger than others.

Although, there are a few individuals seem deluded enough not to admit those mistakes to themselves.

Some of these individuals seem to attempt to protect themselves by looking for imperfections in others.

Have a nice day.

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Skinny,

Shall we go back to Maggie Carta.

Fred1new - 07 Oct 2011 14:01 - 12567 of 81564

Hays,

If the leg take a long time to heal, it could be due to Ongoing Crimes and Punishment!

8-)

Haystack - 07 Oct 2011 14:03 - 12568 of 81564

fred
The point is that the bike was obstructing the footpath. This was especially a problem as it was dark at the time and the pedals stick out at a low level.

skinny - 07 Oct 2011 14:08 - 12569 of 81564

Fred - your post mentioned "post war" - I'm merely posting "post war" facts. The latter black monday to which you refer was actually 19 years ago not 10 - cut and paste can be so unforgiving!

Haystack - 07 Oct 2011 14:11 - 12570 of 81564

'post war' can be a misleading phrase. After the 1967 6 day war in Israel, a greengrocer in Golders Green had a sign in the window which said "Pre-War Prices".

Fred1new - 07 Oct 2011 14:29 - 12571 of 81564

Skinny,

True, but it feels like yesterday.

I was checking the dates, and edited C+P as it seemed to suit my purpose.

Must be more careful.

But in which posting did I mention "post war".

No recollection.

skinny - 07 Oct 2011 14:33 - 12572 of 81564

Fred - the same post -

"Black Wednesday, as 16 September 1992 came to be known, provided one of the most memorable failures of post-war British economic policy.
It was the defining failure of John Major's government."

Its always a good idea to read what one cuts and pastes :-)

skinny - 07 Oct 2011 14:39 - 12573 of 81564

Two excellent programmes on Radio 2 on Monday evening.

19:00 Paul Jones - A one hour special with Joe Bonamassa, in session and conversation.

22:00 Days in the Life - Pink Floyd at 40
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