goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 07 Oct 2011 14:00
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Hays,
What amuses me about the bike accident, is how it is construed.
If I walked into a bike, drunk or sober, I would possibly blame the inanimate object for jumping out unexpectedly.
After a moments pause, I would realise I was being stupid to be irritated with the bike and project my anger (at my own clumsiness) onto another person.
8-)
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Aids
Reflect on some of your possible heroes, Maggie and her Poll tax calamity.
Perhaps, it was her Political suicide note.
The lady, who was responsible for the destruction of much of the UK heavy industry, which could be considered as part of our economic problems to-day.
Have a look ar Churchill, who may be another of your heroes.
He was a Euro enthusiast, but De Gaulle didn't like the "attempt at a British political takeover of Europe for their own gain.". The latter blocked his or the UKs approaches.
But, when you think of Churchill, remember Gallipoli and his other debacles.
In addition, when, he was laughed out of Tonypandy.
(However, he was partially responsible for social reforms ahead of his last party.)
I think the majority of us on reflection have feet of clay and have made many mistakes, some bigger than others.
Although, there are a few individuals seem deluded enough not to admit those mistakes to themselves.
Some of these individuals seem to attempt to protect themselves by looking for imperfections in others.
Have a nice day.
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Skinny,
Shall we go back to Maggie Carta.
Fred1new
- 07 Oct 2011 14:01
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Hays,
If the leg take a long time to heal, it could be due to Ongoing Crimes and Punishment!
8-)
Haystack
- 07 Oct 2011 14:03
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fred
The point is that the bike was obstructing the footpath. This was especially a problem as it was dark at the time and the pedals stick out at a low level.
skinny
- 07 Oct 2011 14:08
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Fred - your post mentioned "post war" - I'm merely posting "post war" facts. The latter black monday to which you refer was actually 19 years ago not 10 - cut and paste can be so unforgiving!
Haystack
- 07 Oct 2011 14:11
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'post war' can be a misleading phrase. After the 1967 6 day war in Israel, a greengrocer in Golders Green had a sign in the window which said "Pre-War Prices".
Fred1new
- 07 Oct 2011 14:29
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Skinny,
True, but it feels like yesterday.
I was checking the dates, and edited C+P as it seemed to suit my purpose.
Must be more careful.
But in which posting did I mention "post war".
No recollection.
skinny
- 07 Oct 2011 14:33
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Fred - the same post -
"Black Wednesday, as 16 September 1992 came to be known, provided one of the most memorable failures of post-war British economic policy.
It was the defining failure of John Major's government."
Its always a good idea to read what one cuts and pastes :-)
skinny
- 07 Oct 2011 14:39
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Two excellent programmes on Radio 2 on Monday evening.
19:00 Paul Jones - A one hour special with Joe Bonamassa, in session and conversation.
22:00
Days in the Life - Pink Floyd at 40
Fred1new
- 07 Oct 2011 14:41
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Thank you.
Accepted.
They weren't my words, but the content summed up my thoughts and probably those of some others.
Have edited that posting.
We all seem able to make mistakes.
aldwickk
- 07 Oct 2011 16:33
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Still waiting for an answer to my post from Fred.
aldwickk - 07 Oct 2011 10:14 - 12558 of 12576
Another smoke screen from Fred , just reply to the articular that I posted . Is it not historical fact that Gordon Brown made a complete balls up selling the Gold.
And it is also historical fact that he was one of the worst Prime minsters this country ever had.
Do you agree Fred ? or do want to carry on being a political moron .
cynic
- 07 Oct 2011 16:50
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now for a totally different gripe ......
HOW ON EARTH can Michelin give the Hand & Flowers in Marlow 2 stars????
I know it well and have visited (ir)regularly ever since it opened, but frankly it merits no more than 1 or perhaps 2 "knives+forks"
While Tom Kerridge's cooking is certainly clever and innovative, it's execution does not always deliver as promised.
Further, the tables are (almost unavoidably) so close together, that one is in danger of picking up someone else's wine, and inevitably their conversation
By the way, the pic in The Telegraph allegedly of Tom is most assuredly NOT ..... Tom is about twice the size of that chappy (the sous chef?)
Fred1new
- 07 Oct 2011 17:02
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Aids,.
Before you start crowing, boasting, or bragging about, how much you made out of gold investment, and how intelligent you are, go and read the information, available at the time, regarding the decision to sell gold, the reasons at the time for doing so, and who were the advisor who gave that advice.
Also, reflect on how lucky you are to be perfect.
I would think the opinion, of such a self opinionated individual as you seem
to be, is of little consequence to any one other than yourself.
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Have a good weekend.
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I am off to finish cooking a chicken in a Sherry and Cream sauce.
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dreamcatcher
- 07 Oct 2011 17:22
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April 15, 2007
Brown lost 2bn selling UK's goldRobert Winnett and Holly Watt GORDON BROWN is to face questions in parliament after revelations that he disregarded advice from the Bank of England before he sold off more than half the countrys gold reserves at the bottom of the market.
Insiders involved in the decision have broken ranks after an 18-month battle in which the Treasury has blocked attempts by The Sunday Times to make public the official advice received by Brown before he sold the gold.
greekman
- 07 Oct 2011 17:25
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Gordon Brown was never one for listening to advice.
I and many others advised him where to go many times and he never took any notice.
dreamcatcher
- 07 Oct 2011 17:26
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Brown defied Bank of England warning over his 6bn gold giveaway
By Jason Groves
Last updated at 8:52 AM on 1st April 2010
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Gordon Brown rode roughshod over resistance from the Bank of England to order the disastrous sell-off of Britain's gold reserves, secret papers have revealed.
Treasury documents released under Freedom of Information last night suggest that the Bank was reluctant to sign up to the sale of 395 tonnes of gold at rock-bottom prices in a series of auctions between 1999 and 2002.
dreamcatcher
- 07 Oct 2011 17:27
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A complete JOKER. (Gordon Brown)
aldwickk
- 07 Oct 2011 17:27
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I think Fred is trying to say his answer is YES , that Gordon Brown did make a ball's up over selling Gold and that Brown was one of the worst P M this country has ever had..
" I would think the opinion, of such a self opinionated individual as you seem
to be, is of little consequence to any one other than yourself."
Fred is calling ME a self opinionated individual , FRED ........ lol unbelievably.
dreamcatcher
- 07 Oct 2011 17:30
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The advice seemed to me, do not sell?
dreamcatcher
- 07 Oct 2011 17:31
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Of course Brown knows better.
Fred1new
- 08 Oct 2011 14:48
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aldwickk,
When I use the word opinionated, I used it with the following meaning in mind
Thinking too highly of or sticking obstinately to one's own opinion; conceited; dogmatic
Initially, I think my reasoning for forming my opinion of you, was due to one of your earlier postings, regarding the murder of Joanna Yeates, when I believe you suggested, or, I think more importantly, stated that Chris Jefferies was a pervert.
I doubted, at that time, that the opinion was based on any real knowledge of that individual, or any of his actions. (I may be wrong.)
I believe that Jefferies sued successfully a certain number of newspapers for making similar remarks.
I have not read any withdrawal by you of the remark.
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To me, often the manner, in which you make your opinion known to others, is frequently deliberately offensive.
One is of course entitled to hold any opinion one wishes, on any subject, topic, or entity.
However, I think it is legitimate to question, disagree with, or oppose such beliefs, opinions or arguments when they are proclaimed.
Suggesting that the opinion of another person is fallacious, is not is unreasonable, but saying that a person who has a differing opinion to you, is a fool, moron, idiot etc. is in my opinion is deliberately pejorative.
Many a genius has had ideas, which have later been shown to have no validity, or to have carried out actions, which were shown to be foolish, but those individuals were certainly not fools.
The known actions and beliefs of an individual do not necessarily define that individual.
It is often wise to listen to those you may class as fools for sometimes they may point to the truth more clearly than the sage.
It seems to me many of your remarks lack humour and are deliberately pejorative about individuals.
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I think, if you reread my own posted opinions, they are more often than not moderated by possibly, probably, or maybe etc..
Often, they are challenges to statements made as facts, when those facts are, or maybe false, or not established.
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Now to your statement of me being a political moron.
While I have done and said many things, which have been thought retrospectively, by myself and others as foolhardy, foolish and/or even stupid, not many who know me consider me to be stupid, or a fool.
Awkward, even bloody minded, sometimes features in their opinions of me.
I may challenge, question and sometimes bait in my postings, but I am a political atheist, although my leaning are to the left, as I think many more of the left policies and ideals will lead to a more harmonious and fairer society.
When posting, the challenges which I make of other peoples stances are often made of my own positioning.
Questions are easy to ask, answers are often revealing and informative, but can be more difficult to find.
Hence the use of abuse by some.
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I am critical of this governments policies, which seem to me to the policies made by, or given birth to, by yesterdays men and are not coherent.
The leadership, which the tory party has at the present time, seems to be made up of hollow men and women who are more interested in protecting themselves and their positions from an future culpability, than formulating actions which are needed in the present economic situation.
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I will respond to the gold question later.
Back to my chicken!