Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

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I guess they will need compensation.

Repeat offenders appear to have worse health in middle-age

A life of crime appears to damage offenders' health once they reach their 40s, new research suggests.

Researchers from Cardiff and Texas universities looked at data on 400 men who have been followed since childhood.

They found offenders were more likely to be hospitalised and were 13 times more likely to be disabled.

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Police raid anti-poppy protest group

(Reuters) - London counter-terrorism officers said on Friday they had carried out a raid on three premises linked to a radical Muslim group, shortly after the organisation, which had planned a demonstration to disrupt Armistice Day ceremonies, was banned.

Fred - one for you - An Intelligence Squared Debate


:-)

Skinny,

No won't be attending.

Even though I think the British have been responsible for many problems in the "Empire" and "Commonwealth" and indeed are less than clean with many of their ongoing "interventions" in some countries, it is time that the relevant countries accept responsibilities for their own problems. That does not mean that support from other countries should not continue.

But it is also time Cameron accepts responsibility for the numerous policy failures he and his "merry men" have introduce over the last 18months and stops blaming previous governments's actions, the Euro-zone, or the World economies

Also, it would be wiser if Cameron stopped bleating at euro-zone members and sort out the UK's problems..

Over the next five years the UK will be more dependent on the rest of Europe than Europe on the UK.



I was let out this morning and only just got back, which U-turn is introducing to-day.

I am glad the Cameron is worried about the UK economy. I am worried that he is supposed to be in charge of it.

A life of crime appears to damage offenders' health once they reach their 40s


So how old is Mad Frankie Frazier now ?

On that same flyer is an evening with Tom Paxton. which should be good - also it is a very nice venue.

What with home visits (OK by that I mean the prison doctor and dentist) and almost instant treatment when attending hospital, plus the access to therapists, both mental and physical, without having to pay, I would have thought they would live years longer.
Must be the culture of committing crime either tanked up on booze or/and drugs, that does it.
I wonder if the research results give them justification for compensation!

greekman

It must be the food they get ........ Porridge is very healthy

Go the Dutch

The Netherlands, where six per cent of the population is now Muslim, is scrapping multiculturalism:

The Dutch government says it will abandon the long-standing model of multiculturalism that has encouraged Muslim immigrants to create a parallel
society within the Netherlands.A new integration bill, which Dutch Interior Minister Piet Hein Donner presented to parliament on June 16, reads:
"The government shares the social dissatisfaction over the multicultural society model and plans to shift priority to the values of the Dutch people.
In the new integration system, the values of the Dutch society play a central role. With this change, the government steps away from the model of a multicultural society." The letter continues: "A more obligatory integration is justified because the government also demands that from its own citizens. It is necessary because otherwise the society gradually grows apart and eventually no one feels at home anymore in the Netherlands..."

The new integration policy will place more demands on immigrants. For example, immigrants will be required to learn the Dutch language, and the
government will take a tougher approach to immigrants who ignore Dutch values or disobey Dutch law.The government will also stop offering special subsidies for Muslim immigrants because, according to Donner,
"it is not the government's job to integrate immigrants." (How bloody true )

The government will introduce new legislation that outlaws forced marriages and will also impose tougher measures against Muslim immigrants who lower their chances of employment by the way they dress.

More specifically, the government will impose a ban on face-covering Islamic burqas as of January 1, 2013.

Holland has done that whole liberal thing, and realised - maybe too late - that creating a nation of tribes will kill the nation itself.

THE FINAL INSPECTION

The soldier stood and faced God,
Which must always come to pass.
He hoped his shoes were shining,
Just as brightly as his brass.

'Step forward now, you soldier,
How shall I deal with you ?
Have you always turned the other cheek ?
To My Church have you been true?'

The soldier squared his shoulders and said,
'No, Lord, I guess I ain't.
Because those of us who carry guns,
Can't always be a saint.

I've had to work most Sundays,
And at times my talk was tough.
And sometimes I've been violent,
Because the world is awfully rough.

But, I never took a penny,
That wasn't mine to keep...
Though I worked a lot of overtime,
When the bills got just too steep.

And I never passed a cry for help,
Though at times I shook with fear.
And sometimes, God, forgive me,
I've wept unmanly tears.

I know I don't deserve a place,
Among the people here.
They never wanted me around,
Except to calm their fears.

If you've a place for me here, Lord,
It needn't be so grand.
I never expected or had too much,
But if you don't, I'll understand.

There was a silence all around the throne,
Where the saints had often trod.
As the soldier waited quietly,
For the judgment of his God.

'Step forward now, you soldier,
You've borne your burdens well.
Walk peacefully on Heaven's streets,
You've done your time in Hell.'

Author Unknown~

This video from the small Yupiq Eskimo Village of Quinhagak, Alaska , was a school computer project intended for the other Yupiq villages in the area. Much to the villagers' shock, almost a million people have viewed it.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=LyviyF-N23A&aq=f

This is me,

From your Netherlands post 'It is necessary because otherwise the society gradually grows apart and eventually no one feels at home anymore in the Netherlands"

Funny, that's how I already feel about the UK. I feel little as regards pride and do not feel it is my country anymore.

Re the soldiers prayer.
Even as an atheist, the sentiments are very well stated.

Daftland

We live in a country called Daftland
The Britain we knew is no more
Where sensible people do ludicrous things
Or risk breaking some Daftland law.
In Daftland we've police dogs with muzzles
Lest the villain has cause to complain
And to steal from a shop and say 'sorry'
Means your free with no stain to your name.

You had better leave lights on in buildings
When you lock up and go home at night
'cause the burglars might hurt themselves entering
And there's no way you'll be in the right.
When speaking be wary in Daftland
As some terms that you've used all your life
Now have connotations unintended
And you'll end up in all sorts of strife.

We elect politicians in Daftland
To give us the laws of the land
Yet eight laws in ten now come from abroad
The whole thing has got out of hand.
The borders are open in Daftland
And of migrants there's no keeping track
Just a few of the thousands illegally here
Will ever be caught and sent back.

The exception to this is the hero
Who fought for this land in the war
He's old and he's sick, he might cost us a bit
So he's not welcome here any more.
When the history is written of Daftland
Historians may just recall
That the craziest people in Daftland
Were the public who put up with it all.

This is me,

Again.
Spot on.

Mind you, I doubt you will be elected to Poet Laureate!

I have to say there are some incredible writers on here.......very entertaining at times....

http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-is-the-eurozone-crisis-strangling-britains-recovery/8450

It is interesting to see the economic genies George and Dave claiming UK's economic problems are nothing to do with their own unsuccessful economic policies.
It is always "them", not "us" guv.

18 months ago. it was the "labour" governments incopetence and nothing to do with the World Economy.

I think Britain needs an election to get rid of this crew.





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FactCheck with Cathy Newman

The claim

Theres no doubt that growth in Britain, jobs in Britain, have been hit by whats going on in the eurozone.
George Osborne, November 11 2011

Cathy Newman checks it out

If youve got a hard hat hanging around, its time to put it on. Because it looks like this week, every day will bring yet more economic doom and gloom.

Tomorrow, Octobers inflation figures are expected to be high enough to force the Bank of England governor Sir Mervyn King to write his eighth letter of explanation to the chancellor.

On Wednesday, the Bank of England slashes its growth forecast and unemployment figures show a million under-25-year-olds out of work.

On Thursday, well find out what effect this is all having on the high street with the release of Octobers retail sales figures. So you could forgive George Osborne for cowering in the Treasury waiting for the next bombshell to fall.

Except the chancellors been at pains to connect disappointing jobs and growth here with the drama in Europe. Will that wash?

The analysis

Growth

Now news of the eurozones weaknesses and the frailty of the Greek economy in particular has been bubbling away for a while, but fears that the sovereign debt crisis could spread to the larger economies of Italy and Spain only began to circulate widely in the summer months.

So there would only be evidence of an immediate knock-on effect on UK growth if GDP slumped suddenly in the third quarter of this year.

In fact, the figures show that the UK economy has barely been out of recession over the last year and there is no clear evidence of a recent change in trend.

The figures for the last four quarters were -0.5 per cent, 0.5 per cent, 0.1 per cent and 0.5 per cent almost a flatline.

By contrast, France and Germanys growth figures were higher than the UK in the second half of last year and the first quarter of this year and have slumped more recently a more likely sign of the debt crisis effect.

Jobs

Unemployment began to rise well before the eurozone crisis too. Government statistics show a rise from 2.45 million people in the three months from March to May to 2.57 million from June to August.

Thats a quarter-on-quarter rise of 4.7 per cent and a similar rise year-on-year.

Well have to wait until the next set of figures are released later this year to measure the full effects of the events of the last three months in Europe, but a recent survey from the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development expects UK unemployment to rise again from October to December.

Trade

As the Institute for Public Policy Research have pointed out, export volumes to other EU countries hit a record level in August, with levels up 5 per cent on a year earlier.

During the same period, export growth to the rest of the world grew by less, precisely the opposite to what you would expect if the eurozone crisis were hitting UK firms who sell to the continent.

We should point out that while the IPPR dloesnt agree with Mr Osborne that the debt crisis is strangling the recovery, the think tank doesnt follow Labours line that the chancellors austerity measures either, preferring to focus on the continuing effects of high oil and food prices.

Cathy Newmans verdict

George Osbornes problem is that the UK economy started to flatline well before the eurozone went into meltdown in the summer months. And unemployment also began to rise well before the likes of Italy hit trouble.

So the chancellor cant blame our current woes on whats going on across the Channel. However, well certainly be feeling the effects of the eurozone debacle in the coming months. Then the blame game will really begin in earnest.

While in contrast:


http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/11/15/uk-europe-economy-idUKTRE7AE0GH20111115?feedType=nl&feedName=ukdailyinvestor

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"(Reuters) - Germany and France posted solid growth in the third quarter but those euro zone countries at the sharp end of the debt crisis are faring much worse and analysts expect bleaker times ahead across the currency bloc.

The German economy grew 0.5 percent in July-September, in line with market forecasts, and second quarter growth was revised up to 0.3 percent from 0.1.

France expanded by 0.4 percent on the quarter, data showed on Tuesday, having contracted by 0.1 percent in the previous three months.

The euro area's debt crisis is likely to make matters worse in the months to come with countries such as Italy, Greece, Ireland, Portugal and Spain forced to adopt tough austerity measures in order to stop the bond market driving them towards default.

Economists say there is no visible growth strategy in place to counter those cuts.

"Looking ahead, sentiment indicators point to a significant growth slowdown, a contraction of the economy towards the end of the year is possible," Carsten Brzeski, economist at ING, said of the Germany economy, which has easily outstripped all others in the euro zone."

Good to see the UK borders are safe in Theresa May's hands.

Mind it saves us having any defence force.

Mind it is also nice to know that we may have surface-to-air missiles in London with the Dave and Philip in charge of the buttons.