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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

aldwickk - 16 Nov 2011 21:38 - 13174 of 81564

That's properly the sound of birds in your garden.

mnamreh - 17 Nov 2011 06:52 - 13175 of 81564

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skinny - 17 Nov 2011 07:50 - 13176 of 81564

What a twat! Rio Ferdinand 'astonished' by Sepp Blatter comments on racism

Fifa president Sepp Blatter has said football does not have a problem with racism on the field, and any incidents should be settled by a handshake.

The Top 10.

1) Slavery isn't dead
In July 2008 Sepp compared the plight of pampered, overpaid, unprofessional footballers to that of slaves, describing how "in football, there's too much modern slavery, in transferring players or buying players here and there and putting them somewhere. With his typical gift for timing, the comments came just as news broke that Frank Lampard had rejected a contract offer from Chelsea in excess of 130,000 a week.

2) The ladies man
Back in 2004 Sepp declared that female footballers should wear hot pants to try and increase the popularity of the sport, saying: "Let the women play in more feminine clothes like they do in volleyball... for example, tighter shorts". Unsurprisingly this wildly degrading comment met with the scorn of many women in the game. "It's completely irresponsible for a man in a powerful position to make comments like this," responded Charlton keeper Pauline Cope.

3) Scrapping the offside rule in the name of jolly hockey sticks
In March 2010 it was revealed that the Fifa supremo had held talks with the Hockey President Leandro Negre about the effect of scrapping the offside rule. Yes, we've all ranted and screamed at our television on more than one occasion when yet again an official is clearly in the wrong, but really, scrapping the offside rule altogether? A goal-hanger's charter, surely?

4) Too many cooks spoil the broth
2007 saw Blatter propose a move to use four linesmen. Two would remain with just their brightly coloured flags, while the other two would have whistles, and could intervene in a game when they felt there was an infringement.

5) 6+5 = I dislike England
Remember when English clubs dominated the Champions League? We all got excited, revelled in our supremacy, and then last year we didn't have a team in the final. That's the natural cycle. However, our man at the top decided it was unfair, and that no teams should be allowed to field more than five foreign players. Funnily enough, this is another plan that never really got off the ground. Apart from it being largely ridiculous, it also goes against the laws of the European Union.

6) There's no gay in football's village
In March 2008, Blatter broke off from calling for dangerous tackles to be punished by life bans to address the tricky questions of homosexuality. Ever the tactful diplomat, Sepp declared:There are gay footballers, but they don't declare it because it will not be accepted in these macho organisations, he said. Look at women's football - homosexuality is more popular there.

7) ITV in Wonderland
In the run-up to the 1994 World Cup, while acting as Fifa's general secretary, our man of many ideas suggested that as an olive branch to the American broadcasting networks, the game should be split into four quarters. Thank goodness nobody listened. It hardly bears thinking about a world where ITV had even more chance to numb our brains with the same reel of commercials over, and over, and over again.

8) Moving the goalposts
Literally. In July 2006, Sepp mused about extending the width of the goal by half a metre, and adding 25cm of height to the frame. As if the modern balls weren't bad enough for those poor brave men (and women) stupid enough to stand between the sticks, he felt it was his duty to make their task that little bit harder.

9) Drop your draws
Having dumped the Golden Goal in 2006, Blatter has since spoken about bringing it back, or perhaps going straight to penalties after a draw in the World Cup knockout stages. But in August 2010 he went one step further, suggesting that all group stage draws should be eliminated completely by introducing extra time and penalties at the end of matches to "make things more interesting".

10) A nasty touch of Qatar
Staging the World Cup in a country where drinking is restricted in the 50degree heat and where homosexuality is punishable by execution? Another winner! Long may his reign of error continue...

skinny - 17 Nov 2011 08:02 - 13177 of 81564

A DEA officer stopped at a ranch in Texas , and talked with an old rancher.

He told the rancher, "I need to inspect your ranch for illegally grown drugs."

The rancher said, "Okay , but don't go in that field over there.....", as he pointed out the location.

The DEA officer verbally exploded saying, " Mister, I have the authority of the Federal Government with me !"

Reaching into his rear pants pocket, he removed his badge and proudly displayed it to the rancher.

"See this badge?! This badge means I am allowed to go wherever I wish.... On any land !!

No questions asked or answers given!! Have I made myself clear......do you understand ?!!"

The rancher nodded politely, apologized, and went about his chores.




A short time later, the old rancher heard loud screams, looked up, and saw the DEA officer running for his life, being chased by the rancher's big Santa Gertrudis bull......

With every step the bull was gaining ground on the officer, and it seemed likely that he'd sure enough get gored before he reached safety. The officer was clearly terrified.

The rancher threw down his tools, ran to the fence and yelled at the top of his lungs.....

(I just love this part....)







"Your badge, show him your BADGE........ ! !"



greekman - 17 Nov 2011 08:02 - 13178 of 81564

Skinny,

Be fair to the man, you can't expect to pay someone a mere 598,000 per year plus expenses and expect that person to have more than half a brain.

Blatter is no more than a Fifa dictator figure, as what he says goes!

mnamreh - 17 Nov 2011 08:04 - 13179 of 81564

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Fred1new - 17 Nov 2011 08:49 - 13180 of 81564

Blatter with half a brain seems to be doing very well.

Can I have the other half, before somebody kicks it.

greekman - 17 Nov 2011 10:05 - 13181 of 81564

Anyone else thinking the same, or is it just my suspicious mind.

Are the Germans refusing to allow the ECB to step in to defuse the debt crisis purely for their own 'long term plans' and not so much for the effect of what occurred in Germany in the 1930's re printing money which lead to race away inflation.

I have a suspicion that they want the crisis to worsen to the point where it causes several countries to either default or/and leave the Euro zone.
Could it be that they accept that the point of disintegration of the Euro zone is past the point of no return, and therefore knowing that when all the s**t has hit the proverbial fan, less will effect Germany than it will the other Euro zone countries as well as those in the EU but not Euro zone members.
Germany with its lesser beneficial state, higher age of retirement compared to several other EU countries and better geared up manufacturing, worker lead industry, would no doubt recover far quicker that those other countries.
I am of course allowing for the massive almost instant knock that such a disintegration would cause to the EU and most of the rest of the world.
You only have to look how much stronger Germany became after the second world war compared with several of the countries that were supposedly on the winning side.

As to further monetary, political and therefor financial union, I think they know that this will be a none starter, as the Irish, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and even I suspect the French will not accept it.
So if you know that all the wheels are coming off and there is nothing that you can do to stop it, then the best policy might be to get further away from the inevitable crash that follows, then be the first one to offer help via trade to those who suffer far worse consequences.

After the inevitable break up of the Euro zone as we know it, I am willing to gamble that Germany will recover within 10 years to become even stronger than it is now, with most of the other member countries struggling to catch up, and that goes for other none Euro zone, EU members to perhaps a lesser extent.

Greek.

mnamreh - 17 Nov 2011 10:10 - 13182 of 81564

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greekman - 17 Nov 2011 10:24 - 13183 of 81564

Mnamreh,

Fully agree.
I would suspect though that whilst all other countries will when it comes to it, adopt the policy of 'Stuff everyone else, look after ourselves', the forever must follow the rules British will be the ones left without even a ladder to pull up.
Fair play and all that, what old chap.

Of course in years to come, we will look back with pride (and little else) and say that, 'When the Titanic of the EU financial world sank, we were the last to the desert the sinking ship.
What I say is, "Stuff that, lets beat the Germans, French and the others to it"!
We know that the ship is sinking. We are well past the time of water lapping at our feet, so why wait till you are completely under water.

As to taking to the lifeboats, are there any left!

mnamreh - 17 Nov 2011 10:35 - 13184 of 81564

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hilary - 17 Nov 2011 11:12 - 13185 of 81564

"It is such an absurd situation that the lives and futures of so many millions of human beings is subject to the narrow opinions of a few beancounters sitting in rating agency offices, bond trading floors and elsewhere."

I don't see why. If governments want to raise money by selling bonds, they need a market and all markets need traders.

Maybe this mess isn't actually the fault of the banks at all and is instead the fault of the governments themselves who have been squandering the money that the banks have entrusted to them. If they hadn't been frittering it away over the last decade and more, maybe the banks would have retained confidence and would be happy enough to continue buying sovereign debt now.

Fortunately, under the sterling leadership of Cameron and Osborne, the UK are now reining in the purse strings after the last bunch of idiots frittered it away, and our credit rating will be preserved so that we won't find ourselves in the same sad and sorry mess as our European counterparts.

mnamreh - 17 Nov 2011 11:29 - 13186 of 81564

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hilary - 17 Nov 2011 11:48 - 13187 of 81564

You can differ all you want, but it's plain old-fashioned common sense that you shouldn't spend what you haven't got. And if you do spend it, and are unable to pay back what you've borrowed, you shouldn't be too surprised when nobody wants to lend you anything ever again.

mnamreh - 17 Nov 2011 12:01 - 13188 of 81564

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Fred1new - 17 Nov 2011 12:42 - 13189 of 81564

That is why a company floats on the market and borrows the money of the new shareholders.

That is why companies have placements,

That is why some farmers are prepared to go into debt to buy a new piece of machinery or other plant in the hope that it will improve his efficiency and profitability.

Get real.

Short term gamblers probably are of little value to the market or themselves.

Capitalism yes, but not based on simple greed and opportunism.

Fred1new - 17 Nov 2011 12:43 - 13190 of 81564

PS.

Is Branson a tory party donor or a friend of Aschroft.

He is certainly not a Virgin.

greekman - 17 Nov 2011 12:44 - 13191 of 81564

Hi Hilary,

I agree that it is far more the fault of Governments than banks, but your reply in answer to the comment
'It is such an absurd situation that the lives and futures of so many millions of human beings is subject to the narrow opinions of a few bean counters sitting in rating agency offices, bond trading floors and elsewhere."

'I don't see why. If governments want to raise money by selling bonds, they need a market and all markets need traders', I feel is only partly right.

Reason............Many millions of people are being effected that have 'No say whatsoever' in what happens on the trading floors or any other area of investment or finance.
And with the EU going the way it is, with even more none elected officials calling the shots, the common people have even less say.

Greek.

Fred1new - 17 Nov 2011 13:00 - 13192 of 81564

N,

I don't think the EU will collapse. There will be a reorganisation with increased integration of political, fiscal and foreign and trade policies with France and Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Portugal at the heart. I think in spite of the present problems, Italy and Spain will probably be included, but there maybe there will be a delay in their unification.

The anti-european emotions are not prevalent in Europe, other than a small minority of right wing groups, who border on the fascist ideology.



The sentiment seems that while Europe has problems, the EU has been beneficial over the last 60 years.


Also, I think the sentiment with the French and German sentiment is that they will be glad to see the back of Britain and will be prepared to protect their own markets against piracy.

hilary - 17 Nov 2011 13:00 - 13193 of 81564

Greek,

Of course those millions have a say. Unless they live in Zimbabwe, they will have elected their government. If that elected government has failed to balance their books, then the populace should take it up with their heads of government. It's most certainly not the fault of banks, analysts, ratings agencies, markets, traders or spivs.

There's nothing whatsoever which compels banks or institutions to buy debt, be it sovereign or personal. That's life.
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