Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/money/3942620/David-Camerons-teen-job-plans-rubbish.html

I say the conservatives should bring back Mick Portilo into politics and government as the PM and make Ken Clarke the Chancellor. Its obvious to a blind man that Cameron and Osbourne lack leadership especially in Europe.

Anyone been listening to Radio 5 Live, woman just been on called Heather, thought i was cynical, she was something else :O) (wasn't you was iit mnahreh?)

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It was you then :O)

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I think it is interesting to see Cameron and Osborne, the two pillocks of British capitalism rushing off to Europe to instruct the Germans and France to pour money into the market, in order to deviate attention from their own policy failures.

Bankrupt yourselves to save Britain, but we don't want anything to do with you and you are useless anyway. Anything we can do to dismantle the EU we will do.

The Cameron rhetoric, for the consumption of the Euro-phobic tory back-benchers in the tory party, is an attempt to save his own skin and goes down like a lead balloon n Europe.

If the pair don't stop preaching to Europe as if they are still in the "colonial age", I wonder when Europe will turn their back on Britain and British needs.

Germany's secret plans to derail a British referendum on the EU

Germany has drawn up secret plans to prevent a British referendum on the overhaul of the European Union amid concerns it could derail the eurozone rescue package, leaked documents obtained by The Daily Telegraph disclose.

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Very good point Fred.

I know people didnt rate Brown, but give him his dues he was their on the spot working with everyone in the World to sort out the global disaster. its as if Cameron and Osbourne want to just look on and say its nothing to do with us.

Thats not the type of attitude and stance we should be taking as a nation as a global leader.

Best thing the conservatives could do ids to get Mick Portilo back into politics and to dump cameron and place him at the top.

As for the liberals now on 7% ......... I give up.

So the rescue package has a leak!.

As for Cameron and his, 'time to regain powers to the UK in exchange for agreeing to back other plans.
I have no doubt that he will succeed in getting some powers back, but I bet that he gives far more away than he gains.
I read a few days ago that the UK has never been in such a strong position in the EU for many years. I will believe that when I see it.
I also read that Cameron could return triumphant in the manner of Gladstone, with a peace in our time paper waving moment.
A heavyweight in Europe, they must be joking.
Its the Germans and French who are the Klitskos of this world, with the British mere flyweights.

http://vegassharps.com/vitali-klitschko-vs-wladimir-klitschko-odds/

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/File:Hernan_Marquez.jpg

Mind you, I would love Cameron to give the Germans a bloody nose, metaphorically speaking of course.

Hi Greek,

Love that comment 'I would love Cameron to give the Germans a bloody nose'
very British old chap what :O) Triple A credit rating, despite the lefties protestations we still have it. If those barm pots (scottish mafia) were still in charge would be in shreds now, so let's not forget it eh! :O)

Chris,

Spiffying post old boy, don't you know.

I just hope Cameron keeps the British stiff upper lip during the talks on further capitulation to the Germans.

Edit. Sorry should read 'Negotiations with the Germans'.

G F.

Before the last General Election, I thought the Liberals had become "woolly" again, but still had a lot of respect for some of its leading lights.

I thought our "Vince" spoke a lot of economic sense and was moderate and agreed with of his most of his unwisely stated "off the cuff" remarks. At the least, he seemed to be recognise and concerned and with the present economic problems and was attempting to consider society as a whole, when seeking resolutions to current problems, rather than denigration of others political figures and countries.

I was disappointed with the decisions made by the Liberal party leadership in entering the so called "coalition", but probably understand their motivation for doing so. (I had a feeling of disappointment with the some of the policy beliefs relinquished by the Liberals.)

I still think he is a "thinking" politician who understands the economic situation we are in, and would prefer him to be negotiating UKs future in Europe for Britain rather than Osborne.

Perhaps, a genuine full blown temporary "coalition" government, with the power and strength to overrule the extremes of all the parties may be a solution.

Just heard the Cameroon speaking in Europe stating he wished for renegotiation of European with less regulation and financial integration.
Bloody marvellous! The last UK government was blamed for its laxity of regulation of the financial markets. Bring back piracy.

What is needed in more fiscal integration of Europe, which I think will come.

Also, what is needed is more regulation to curb the extremes of the market and probably to restrict the power of the money lenders to push the market around at whim to make a few more bucks, while hiding away in various tax havens around the world.


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.The Tobin tax would address some of the volatility in the market and long overdue.

Neutrino experiment repeat at Cern finds same result

The collaboration behind the finding in September that neutrinos may travel faster than light has carried out an improved version of their experiment - and found the same result.

Skinny,

Do you think any of the "light" could percolate through to Brussels.

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It was good to hear an interview a couple of nights ago with the Danish Prime Minister, the next President of the Council of the European Union, when she spoke of an inclusive integrated Europe, rather than the fragmented Europe which some in the UK seem to wish for.

But, I wish the various structures and the organisation bodies within the governing bodies of Europe could be simplified.

Trying to work out, who does what, when or why is a minefield.

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Well Berlusconi thought she was hot - Silvio Berlusconi, Italian PM, Caught Checking Out Helle Thorning-Schmidt, Danish PM (VIDEO)

But then again he thought that of anything with a pulse.

Syria 'to accept' Arab League monitoring mission

Syria has decided to accept an Arab League mission to observe the implementation of peace proposals aimed at ending violence, a Syrian diplomatic source has told the BBC.

Greek and
Gladstone,

I thought he gave handouts to the "down and outs" or at prostrate members of society.

My memories don't go that far back, but recollect the paper waving moment was from another period.

(Often wondered, if Chamberlain was that naive or was he buying time in an attempt to continue to rearm. Often, puzzled by the lack of information he seems to have been working on. Perhaps, is was market forces once again.)

Silvio Berlusconi, epitomises market forces for me.

Amoral, with the abuse of resources and power and needed regulating.