Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

What a surprise! - Manchester City reveals record 194.9m loss

Manchester City has reported an annual loss of 194.9m for 2010-11, the biggest in English football history.

GF if you mean the Toby Task, it should do.

These mentioned derivatives causes some of the volatility as the total leverage is disproportionate to the wagers.

Both can be used in protection of portfolio held, but with all insurance the cost must be in proportion to the risk.

(I do use them, but at the moment the present market is too dangerous for me and have stopped using them for the time being.

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Tanker,

The cameroon will possibly deliver you wish.

Then what?

Closer links with Australia and the colonies.

(I have a daughter in Australia, who commented "who the hell is Cameron?"

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I would prefer to trade with my neighbouring country than a country half the way around the world.

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" Was William Hague a member of the "League of Ball Headed Men" or was he something to do with the "Brides in the Bath"?

Seem to recall him from somewhere or other. "


Fred , don't you think its about time you moved into a home for the bewilded ?

City bankers buying lottery tickets Harry Wallop, 17:28, Friday 18 November 2011

Wealthy City workers, having a punt on the huge EuroMillions jackpot, has helped the National Lottery post its strongest sales growth in at least ten years.

Camelot (OTC BB: CAML.OB - news) , the company behind the National Lottery, reported a record-half year set of results, with sales of tickets up 19pc to 2.45bn in the six months to September 24.
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This significant jump in sales comes after many years of pedestrian growth, with last year the company recording a sales increase of 5.6pc.

A small number of huge prizes on the EuroMillions over the last 18 months has helped attract new and infrequent players to the game. Britains biggest ever lottery jackpot was scooped by Colin and Chris Weir in July, when they won a 161m prize. This came a year after another British player shared a 113m prize with a Spanish winner.

A spokesman for Camelot said that when the prize reached 80m, the company noticed that sales of tickets suddenly started to spike in some of the richest areas of London, including the City, Canary Wharf, Kensington and Chelsea. We have a core base of regular EuroMillions players but, when the jackpots on offer become huge, typically over the 80 million mark, we also see lots of new and occasional players taking part. Top-selling stores on these occasions are usually located in the City and Canary Wharf, and the overall number one selling store is regularly one of our retailers based in Canary Wharf.

We presume that people working in these areas only think it is worth playing when the prize has got into the stratospheric levels."

Camelot, which is owned by a Canadian pension fund, said that total sales were up 19.9pc to 3.26bn, with 918m given to good causes, a 17pc increase. Sales growth has also been fuelled by a number of new games. It now sells 44 separate scratch cards.

However, the company denied that sales had been driven by the economic downturn with cash-strapped consumers hoping to land a life-changing amount. It pointed out that rival lotteries in Europe (Chicago Options: ^REURUSD - news) were not enjoying similar sales growth.

We strongly believe that it is not connected to the economic downturn, otherwise youd see other lotteries doing well, said a spokesman.

Aids,

Unless you are already in such, your need would appear greater than mine.

" if you mean the Toby Task, "

No Fred , your need is much greater

Angela Merkel holds firm on plan for financial tax despite British fears
Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, has refused to back down on plans to impose a financial tax the British government believes is a direct threat to the City of London.

Bloody German's , they bombed our chip shop. Sorry, sorry , don't mention the war.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xnNhzgcWTk

Hot of the press

J. P. Morgan-Gate Escalates by Tom Heneghan,

Posted By: watcher51445
Date: Friday, 18-Nov-2011 03:15:28
HOT BREAKING NEWS: J. P. Morgan-Gate Escalates

J. P. Morgan-Gate Escalates
by Tom Heneghan, International Intelligence Expert
Thursday November 17, 2011

Jamie Dimon, CEO of J. P. Morgan

CNNMoney

UNITED STATES of America -It can now be reported that J. P. Morgan is involved in massive fraud involving the bankruptcy of investment bank MF Global.

We can now divulge that it was J. P. Morgan and German Deutsche Bank, along with Glencore Commodities out of Zurich, Switzerland (whose CEO is none other than Bush-Clinton Crime Family stooge Marc Rich) that issued the collateral aka bogus derivatives that were used by MF Global to place trades on the European sovereign debt.

J. P. Morgan then proceeded to use their offshore hedge fund on the Isle of Man to take the opposite position of MF Global by buying EURO currency futures and simultaneously shorting MF Global stock.

It now gets worse!

Financial terrorist Jamie Dimon, CEO of J. P. Morgan, then proceeded to conspire with the European Central Bank and the ISDA to declare a non-credit event and basically cancel the trades of MF Global, which led to the bankruptcy of MF Global. (A former ECB Vice Chairman headquartered in Portugal has recently resigned his position with the ECB. He is under European INTERPOL investigation for conspiring with the privately-owned U.S. Federal Reserve and J. P. Morgan aka a massive money laundry tied to the forex currency exchanges and the Greek, Spanish and Portuguese banks).

J. P. Morgan then used their proceeds from the decapitation of MF Global to sell credit protection to Bank of America, which had massive exposure to Asian derivative debt.

Both J.P. Morgan and Bank of America then proceeded to buy Japanese yen futures on the worldwide forex exchange, which was designed to complete the derivative swindle.

Once this latest Ponzi Scheme was unraveled the Japanese Central Bank unilaterally intervened to depreciate the Japanese yen and buy U.S. dollars.

P.S. We can now divulge that the alleged missing $600 MILLION from MF Global segregated accounts have actually, for the last two weeks, been part in the custodial accounts of J. P. Morgan and Morgan Stanley.

As of this morning the funds have now been illegally transferred to proprietary accounts of Barclays Bank in England and their secret hedge fund named Humewood Associates.

Note: This is massive obstruction of justice!

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder needs to be immediately indicted by a People's Grand Jury.

P.P.S. We can now reveal that both U.S. Attorney General and Marc Rich stooge, Eric Holder, and SEC Chairman Mary Schapiro refused to seize the custodial accounts of J. P. Morgan even though a majority of DOJ and SEC investigators demanded that it be done immediately.

What we now have, folks, is money laundry enabled by both the SEC and the U.S. Department of Justice.

P.P.P.S. As of this hour crooked U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder aka Marc Rich-Jamie Dimon defense attorney, has left the country and is on his way to the Bahamas for an alleged legal conference.

Question: Could it be Eric Holder is going to the Bahamas to pick up his commission check from Marc Rich and Glencore Commodities?

Final note: We can now report that former MF Global CEO Jon Corzine is about to receive transitional immunity from Justice Department investigators that are busy unraveling the J. P. Morgan-MF Global debacle.

The only thing needed to complete this negotiation is for the U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to sign off on it.

Question: Could it be that is the reason Eric Holder is flying to the Bahamas?

READ MORE: http://www.myspace.com/tom_heneghan_intel/blog/

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=221956

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/what-price-the-new-democracy-goldman-sachs-conquers-europe-6264091.html

That articular is not based on known fact's just rumour and tabloid like reporting.

We need more deregulation and less interference in the market.

Signed

The Cameroon,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15803860

Any bet's that he is a immigrant/asylum seeker with a history of mental problems or a criminal record.

fred , did you no that camerons family get millions from the EU in land subs .
that is why he will not give the uk voters a vote on getting out read about there hand outs from the EU he should now resign because of this if he was playing the market hewould be in prison for in siderer dealing because that is what it is

yes that is correct is family gets millions each year in land subsides ,and hesletine

Is that Fred that you are talking about?!

T,

Never seen his accounts, or Tax submissions.

Would like to see his, Porky's. the cabinets and the rest of the MPs'

Have seen some exposure of the cabinets who have parked investments, or cash in off shore havens.

Cayman island etc..

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Now, that there is going to be renegotiation. positioning etc. within the Euro-zone, EC. this is the chance the Cameroon to sort out what his party stands for.

He should have the long talked of "referendum"


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Bill Cash for PM. A leader who knows what we should do.

Get back those colonies.

Put the Grate back in Great Britain,

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Sorting out the mess that Labour left us with


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15801960

Do you mean "Eton Mess"?

It would be better than the one that is being created.

Well if were going back a few years I dont know why Labour dont point back to the Thatcher era and the development of the Service sector and Banking in general and the loss of manufacturing ie, engineering and allied industry centered around the Coal mines.

Thats the REAL LEGACY we are fighting today and lets not forget the birth of the 'latch door key kid' in that era, those who are spawing the feral youth of today.

The conservatives should stop blaming labour and accept responsibility themselves if we are to get out of this mess.

Im a floating voter but can see myself turning back to labour if the conservatives continue to attack the most vunerable in society and let the top knobs off scott free.

The Thatcher era wasn't a few years ago , and it was the militant union's that destroyed the car industry , and the dockers were always on strike , the Coal industry was being subsidised by the tax payer because they were uncompetitive in the World market.

Remember the winter of discontent under Labour ? 24% inflation , the pound being devalued.



The feral youth of today, are the result of Labour's P C brigade's law's on slapping kid's ,
not giving the Police, teaches and the Courts the power to punish and discipline them.

And Labour's signing up to the human right's act and its failing to stand up for our interests in the EU , resulting in mass uncontrolled emigration from not just the EU but from around the World .