Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

This is me,

I for one have already sent it on to several people.

As to Michael Richards comments that got him into trouble, I have no idea what they were so can't judge.

As to myself, as many know, I was a Police Officer for over 25 years and have come across more racism against me than I can list, but I must mention 1 incident.

As a Police Officer in Humberside, I mainly worked in the north of the county which had a 'very low' number of immigrants, especially during my first few years service.
I had been a Police Officer for around 5 years when I was directed to a street disturbance in Bridlington.
On arrival several youths were fighting.
After parting these youths, one of them, the only black youth of the group would not listen to any warnings from myself and just wanted to continue to fight.
After a final warning, he was arrested.
Immediately he accused me of racism. I remember his words even after all these years, as I have heard them repeated many times.
He said, " Your only arresting me because I'm black".
My reply was, "No, I'm arresting you because you won't listen to reason".
He later made a formal complaint of racism.

Although at the time he was the first black person I had ever arrested, I was investigated for racism and left with the impression that I could have perhaps given him another warning before considering an arrest.
If I had been a probationer (less than 2 years service) I would have been very wary of arresting him as during those first 2 years I could have been dismissed 'without reason'.
I know that the accusations aimed at the Police that they are more likely to pick on none whites to arrest is rubbish.
It is far more likely that they give these people that bit more leeway, as many Police Officers feel that 'It just isn't worth the hassle'.

Edte..........I must add that I do accept there are racist elements in the Police like all organisations, but it is in the minority!

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N,

It is obvious to me that the majority of us make judgements about each other and discriminate against each other and I certainly attempt to. Sometimes I try to rationalise my conclusions and revalue them, sometimes ending up thinking differently, but feeling as previous.

As usual, when I am confused I resort to the dictionary, in order to try to understand why I am confused about and doing so, found one definition of prejudice as : an unjust or prejudicial distinction.

I think, it is when the prejudicial distinction leads to a unwarranted prejudicial action to another person, group or body, that discrimination is dangerous and then should be considered reprehensible.

I think this could be applied to so called racist remarks.

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m - one way of not answering the question is I guess by asking one in return.

Aldwickk will answer for himself, but you just lost the argument.

This thread is busy to-night.

Must be the weather!

Bloody England.

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M - odd you delete your last three posts? What happened to talk of marriage to Polynesians?

For the UNION knockers.

Im as an accountant well semi retired accountant still having to pay annual fees to the professional bodies of the 4 I passed exams with.

Ive also been a union member whilst with the Civil Service and In the retail industry and can say the fees are far greater than the fees i paid to the unions and not only that but the restrictive practices these professional bodys employ to keep people out and keep salarys high is far greater than any practice the unions used.

I hear its the same in banking and the legal industry.

So please come on lets have some fair play here.

Ohh and second point the reason the car industry went to the dogs wasnt because of the unions it was because management here didnt re-tool/re-capitalise plant and the japs and the germans did, beat us in the race, and at the same time paid relative higher wages. Result lower unit costs and better models.

Its always been the case that the unions carry the can, but british management have a very poor track record historicaly compared to other industrialised nations.

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Goldfinger

" management here didnt re-tool/re-capitalise plant "

That's because the Union's wouldn't let them modernise because of fear of loosing job's , no more sleeping on the night shift.

Aldwick, if you check your history you will find the Union action in the car industry came about well after our competitors had stolen a march upon us on the technology side.

Our management tried to compete not by having the foresight to invest in new up to date plant but by trying to cut back on numbers of staff employed.

Of course the unions then reacted.

goldfinger , if they thought that they could produce the same number of car's with a smaller workforce then there must have been overmanning. Whatever way you look at it there would have been job loses.

Osbourne now trying to make out its labours fault that he has had to sell the 'Rock'.

Gideon, its still 2011 not June 2013.

Pathetic.

gold . a question why have lloys or any uk bank have to not take any notice about EU rules when ALL eu banks have taken gov cash why are lloys not now asking questions .

Aids,.

Are you watching the Media Ethics Inquiry?

More interesting than many expected.

More boring than most people expected.

I thought H Grant's contribution very constructive or perhaps if a member of the Tabloid Press destructive.

For me. he was very impressive.

Glad to hear the Cameroon has been woken up and realises that his economic policies are failing and he is "dreaming".

Listen to George's and his bleating, and excuses before another U-Turn, or will it be just listening to the "public" or city once again.

This coalition is a disaster.

If he is not up to the job he should be sacked.

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But it doesn't matter when the Eu kicks the UK out, all will be well again.

Looking at today's market chaos, and the magnificent 400million into "Housing" and threat of privatisation of the NHS. and listen to the market "gossip", it isn't the Euro-zone economic problems which is worrying them, but this country's government.

Why has the value of sterling dropped over 20% since George and Dave been in charge.

But don't worry George in his hour of need has cut off dealings with IRAN. Yippee

Can't wait until the morning, Wonder if the power will be cut off.