Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack----The fact that we do have such low interest rates because the Tories are sticking to the austerity measures seem to be lost, and let's not forget the last two changes in government, when labour via Tony Blair came to power they inherited a thriving economy with money to burn, and whilst the economy cannot always thrive which it didn't during the Gordon Brown premiership, so not apportioning all the blame for the economy at their door, but, Labour certainly burnt all our money, and some Labour MP's took great delight in letting the Tories and the electorate know that the cupboard was bare. They had during their term wasted billions.
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Greek - post 13514 - some of us won't be affected because we are not in the 26 to 45 age group :-)

Indeed. Ken Clarke left Labour a very strong economy, which they manged to ruin.
There are only two Labour policy types. There is 'Tax and Spend'. When that one stops working due to squeezing the public too hard they revert to their other favourite policy known as 'Borrow and Spend'. This proves popular for a time as the public is fooled into thinking that the burden of tax has lightened slightly. Then it comes and slaps them in the face when it becomes clear that their options have run out. Socialism is like that. It is inflexible. The good thing about Capitalism is that it is infinitely modifiable. The range of strategies is vast. Socialism and its parent Communism relies on dogmatic principles such as five year plans etc; hence the demise of communism and socalism.

Skinny,

Not in the 26 to 45 age group.

I wish.

You and me both!

Religious slaughter
Jewish method called shechita
Muslim method called dhabiha
Stunning prohibited in Jewish law, which says animals must be healthy and uninjured at the time of slaughter
Islamic law also says animals must be uninjured, but authorities sometimes allow a form of stunning - in the UK, dhabiha usually involves stunning

If they are not healthy and uninjured what do they do in Israel and Islamic country's ?

Why don't these people use common sense when reading religious book's that were written so long ago ? At the time they were wrote they made sense.

Stoning women to death for alleged adultery , cutting off limb's for minor offensive's , putting people into stock's , deporting children for stealing bread in England the law has changed in the uk , mostly for the better.

So why are these Religious book's so outdated ?

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Aldwick,

Many years ago, I was called to a disturbance on an estate in Bridlington.
On arrival it was discovered that a goat had been slaughtered in the street by holding it over a drain and slitting its throat, obviously upsetting the majority of the estates inhabitance.
As this was about 25 years ago, I can't remember the religion of the person involved in this killing, but I do remember all the barriers put in my way by the powers that be, when I wanted to prosecute the offender.
The offense was quietly put to one side, as 'It would have caused offense to that section of the population', well actually the person was given advice not to do it again.
I remember being incensed by that decision and it was the start of many incidents where I saw the authorities 'Turned the other way', where ethnic minorities (which will soon refer to us, the way things are going), I must add Gypsies to this group.
There are many times when I have dealt with immigrants driving vehicles with no documents, 'I didn't know I had to have a license, and whats insurance and MOT'
All replying in decent understandable English of course, until they reach the Police Station of course then it was, 'No understand, I want solicitor and interpretor'.
Many were never seen again, and as getting them to court was a none starter, many were just let off.

No wonder they flood over here.
They think quite rightly that they have nothing to fear and can get away with just about anything.

I am an atheist, but the saying 'We reap what we sow' is very relevant!

You mean like a Conservative government mnamreh ?

Didn't think much of your answer on the question of outdated meaning's in Religious book's being misrepresentation's by Religious leaders , cult Churches come to mind.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14779271

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greekman

The flood gates were opened and its to late to close them.

the EU is going to break up and it has started to happen .
germany have been working on puling out for over 18 months .

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God I thought I was looking at a VME dump!

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To put pressure on Iran, they should get help from the safe heaven, Dubai where many of the transactions happen.

Off course Dubai like Iranian money more than Iran's government or the west.

Aldwick,

You say, "The flood gates were opened and its to late to close them".

Close them, the Gypsies have probably stolen them and sold them for scrap!

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http://www.theoildrum.com/

Mnamreh,

You say, 'Unpleasant to see, as usual'.

I agree with you 100%, but just because the truth is unpleasant, does not mean it's not the truth.
I understand what is happening, and I don't like it one bit.
Most of our current problems are because too many people, especially politicians have for far too long, turned a blind eye, with the attitude of, ' If we ignore it, it will go away'.
I fear very much for the future, not so much for myself, but for my children and grandchildren.