Legins
- 31 Oct 2003 11:01
willfagg
- 28 Sep 2004 17:03
- 138 of 279
Same problem Mack. What is this business worth?Its obviously good news but you find yourself wanting to know a little more
Mack1705
- 28 Sep 2004 17:17
- 139 of 279
will,
I guess the market is probably focussing on the term 'soft launch' which some might class as no more than a trial...I read an interesting article on this subject recently which provides more background to this 'phrase' and attach the link for your info
http://www.varbusiness.com/sections/columns/columns.jhtml?articleId=18827326&_requestid=292520
Also EVO have produced an updating brokers report everytime a new Speech Recognition is announced. Will be interesting to see if we get a new EVO report later this week because they will have to come clean on their expectations for eps in current financial year. If they continue to stick with 0.7p eps this can only be good news given all the sector concerns over network margins being eroded.
If a report fails to materialise then you have to ask why not!
willfagg
- 29 Sep 2004 09:39
- 140 of 279
Many thanks for that Mack
Mack1705
- 01 Oct 2004 18:15
- 141 of 279
Will,
the following table of brokers consensus opinion on peer group Alt Telcos makes interesting reading from a ECK shareholder's perspective!
Assuming EPS targets are achieved ECK seems to stand out by a mile as being undervalued against its peers, ignoring the cash balances it holds(equating to 4p a share).
As far as I can see the ECK figures ignore the recent Trinity Mirror and ATOC deals which could add s to the bottom line.
Wonder how long it will take the market to latch onto the fact that ECK is massively oversold???
05EPS 06EPS SP 05x 06x
Red 0.1 0.3 7.75 77.50x 25.83x
Pipex 0.26 0.69 8.00 30.77x 11.59x
Thus -0.8 0.1 14.75 -18.44x 147.50x
KCOM 1.3 3.8 56.00 43.08x 14.74x
Eckoh 0.7 1.1 8.00 11.43x 7.27x
willfagg
- 02 Oct 2004 02:25
- 142 of 279
looks good to me, but i am more of a conviction politician and believe they have a product that is the future. I know they are trying to do the more clever stuff, but making calls handsfree in a car will be by speech recognition. Every switchboard will route people and respond by speech recognition. Basically at all levels of business there is a demand and therefore an opportunity. The list is huge and they appear to be at the leading edge
Mack1705
- 04 Oct 2004 15:05
- 143 of 279
strange trading going on today...not alot of sells but the mid price drops...
also alot of trades going through at full offer 8p whereas MMs were selling at 7.90/5p on Friday when the best offer was 8.25p!
MM manipulation don't you just love it....
Mack1705
- 04 Oct 2004 17:13
- 144 of 279
I had expected to see a big T sell appear after hours, but no sign yet.
All that seems to have happened today is the MMs have closed the spread to 7.75p-8p from 7.75p-8.25p on what is below daily average trading volume.
Mack1705
- 05 Oct 2004 11:45
- 145 of 279
lots of sells going through today, but the SP ticks up!
all very strange!
bonfield
- 05 Oct 2004 14:24
- 146 of 279
I'm looking to buy but the 7.75-8.25% spread is putting me off. Is it worth waiting for this to narrow? I too thought the large no of sells should have dropped the price....shome mishtake shurely?
Mack1705
- 05 Oct 2004 15:06
- 147 of 279
thanks Bonfield,
what is really confusing me is that I was quoted 7.8p to sell and 7.92p to buy
this bears no resemblence to the current quoted spread of 7.75p-8.25p
seems to me the MMs want the mid price to be showing at 8p for some reason
yesterday EVO dropped their spread to 7p-8p which reduced the mid to 7.875p and raised their spread this morning to 7.25p-8.25p which got the mid back to 8p...
I'm sure EVO must have a reason for doing this I just can't fathom out why???
bonfield
- 05 Oct 2004 16:55
- 148 of 279
my broker is TDW, and they quoted 8.2, by the sound of it I can do a lot better. I saw one trade for 480 shares go through at 7.95 presumably a sell? last trade was 10k at 7.75, another sell, so will look to get a price closer to 8p or under if possible in next few days.
Mack1705
- 05 Oct 2004 17:15
- 149 of 279
very interesting Bonfield
looks like the MMs are pretty undecided on what is the right price to sell stock to the punters...interesting that one punter paid 8.25p for 50,000 shares this morning
just before the close my broker(Charles Stanley) was offering stock at 7.92p
I can only assume that the trade at 7.95p was a buy and all the trades at 7.75p and 7.8p are sells
probably need to shop around for best price at the moment however the MMs do seem keen to sweep up shares at 7.75p from holders losing their nerve!
lostcause
- 05 Oct 2004 18:15
- 150 of 279
The trades at 7.95 today were buys. Plenty of sells though, doesn't seem to make sense. I bought some of these last week for 7.95 using Halifax, who I have to say are pretty useless. However, I had to get a quote approx 8 times at 8.20 before they offered them at 7.95 - so just keep pressing that button!
Mack1705
- 06 Oct 2004 12:45
- 151 of 279
MMs are playing a very tight game today
can't buy even 1,000 shares at less than 8.15p and if you want 50,000 you need to pay full 8.25p
looks like something is getting ready to blow!
Mack1705
- 06 Oct 2004 15:00
- 152 of 279
maybe not he's back on 7.92p to sellto punters!!!
bonfield
- 06 Oct 2004 15:30
- 153 of 279
all my quotes have been 8.2p with TDW, should I get another broker?
Mack1705
- 06 Oct 2004 16:17
- 154 of 279
bonfield,
they are taking the piss now!
back up to 8.25p for buys of 1,000 shares or more
how can they justify a 5% increase in purchase price based on the trades today which have been mainly sells...
Mack1705
- 06 Oct 2004 16:40
- 155 of 279
well with 120k shares changing hands (less than 10,000) the MMs haven't made alot of commission today, in fact it doesn't look as though they were really open for business at this trading level!
see what tomorrow brings...
bonfield
- 07 Oct 2004 09:58
- 156 of 279
right, in at 7.95, thx Mack for saving me a few quid, I'll be a lot more careful with spreads in future.
Mack1705
- 07 Oct 2004 11:20
- 157 of 279
bonfield,
definitely one to watch closely
L2 information suggests that we are in a very tight trading range...quite a few of the MMs are taking in very small amounts of stock at 7.75p and then moving the spread back up to sell shares at 8.15p/8.25p
WINS on the other hand seems to be buying in at 7.75p and selling at 7.83p!!!
can only conclude that there aren't any large buy or sell orders at the moment.
probably no bad thing if it introduces some stability to share price and develops a floor which allows price to rise significantly as we get closer to the Interim results(they posted the results last year on 15th December - ECKs web site is suggesting the results will be out in November)...