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The 20 million Company with the potential revenue of 1 billion (HYR)     

chad - 03 Feb 2005 21:10

HydroDec Group (HYR) Has developed technology that allows contaminated oil to be cleaned and re-used. In todays environment this kind of company cannot be overlooked. It already has a fully-functional plant in Australia and another is due to be opened in around 9 months. Tipped in Shares magazine as a 'blue sky' stock. If the company manages to capture 1/2 of the market revenue could be as high as 1 billion.

Anyone holding who's as excited as I am?

Dynamite - 20 Feb 2005 19:48 - 14 of 112

Well SD..Thanks for the info. It is a bit confusing. I already bought HYR on Friday but I still have plenty of spare cash after taking profits on PDX and NOP.
Plan is to buy more SEO on dips, HYR on dips, GFM on dips and should I buy VTI as well as I don't have any yet. Just been looking on Afdvn postings about an institution who sold lots of HYR recently and bought the same amount in VTI instead. VTI chart looks a bit static to me though. I shall keep an eye on it.

I will definitely be at the Traders day so it will be great to meet you.
Di

stockdog - 20 Feb 2005 20:09 - 15 of 112

Don't know about VTI chart being static - but we may be heading to the top of the 5th wave after which 3 declining waves ?? - so I think plenty of time to wait for it to peak and fall back below where it is now to buy. But since Jul'03 there has certainly been a bit of life in the old SP.

Gotta go - dinner's burning!

SD

andysmith - 20 Feb 2005 20:11 - 16 of 112

Di & Stockdog, hello again, I've been mulling over this one for a few weeks since the bluesky article. At that time put more into topping up SEO so not a bad decision but have just released some funds and looking for the next one.
Can't make my mind up whether to buy or not, principle looks good, application of enviro could also end up being legislation driven? Question is the timescale. Article said first serious profit in 2008. I'll kick myself if I do & it's peeked for now and if I don't and it flys. Difficult one this!

stockdog - 20 Feb 2005 21:05 - 17 of 112

Chart is very similar to SEO's recent progress (but without the 51 year history prior to that) - but with so much recent info on that subject we probably feel we know it better. And several of us are buying more at the 13/14 level - although mostly those who started at the 4p or 8p level on first buy.

Over the long-term, if this share does perform over the next year or so, the recent doubling will seem like a pimple. If it doesn't perform we will have regrets. Do we know who the main holders of stock are and if they've been selling into the rise?

Profitability being so far away and no idea what a litre of re-cycled oil earns gives little clue to the evntual profitability. Not sure where Dynamite got her 2bn annual world market from (not disagreeing, just asking). Also hints but nothing definite about what other applications the same technology has in cleaning industrial waste products - be nice to know there was breadth (PSG e.g. has as many applications as you can think of related situations) as well as depth to its eventual market - then I'd be in like a shot.

It feels sexy to me, but too little info to definitely want to get into bed (if you'll excuse me carrying the analogy to the next logical step). Maybe I'll just watch for a while - that doesn;'t sound too good either does it.

SD



Dynamite - 20 Feb 2005 23:12 - 18 of 112

SD.. The 2bn annual market came from the Shares Mag.
Di

leslielipert - 21 Feb 2005 14:25 - 19 of 112

Durlacher have done an Initial Coverage Report.

The say Key to HydroDec is the 9 month payback for the enlarged 20,000 litre per day facilities. Therefore, we believe HydroDec will be able to fund its own expansion. We believe the future will see major customers taking licenses to the technology and paying HydroDec a per usage royalty fee.

In short term they set a target price of 50p and an indicative net present value of 156.7m against a current EV of just 33.4m at a price of 23.5p.

andysmith - 21 Feb 2005 21:35 - 20 of 112

So is it a scrreaming buy or not, what happens if any glitches with the new plant??

stockdog - 21 Feb 2005 21:54 - 21 of 112

leslielipert - can you let us know where we can read the Durlacher note - it's still a mystery to me who they are issued to and where one can readily acquire them or even know they exist.

thanks

andysmith - remember the principle, do your own screaming! nearly dived in today, but couldn't resist some more DEMG at what I hope will be the bottom of their recent decline.

SD

andysmith - 22 Feb 2005 08:13 - 22 of 112

This one is screaming at me to buy it but so are many others and I only have so many funds. May have to take profits from elsewhere!!

Dynamite - 22 Feb 2005 08:22 - 23 of 112

Andy and SD... HYR has already screamed at me so I bought last week. It is one to hold for a while me thinks.
Di

stockdog - 22 Feb 2005 09:12 - 24 of 112

Di

You'll just have to hold it for us too for a while. Thinking of writing a book on the psychology of what to buy called "The Divided Scream" - catchy, don't you think.

If DOO keeps on going I may have profits to reinvest sooner than I think.

Have now booked in to Trade Day - see you there I hope.

SD

Dynamite - 22 Feb 2005 15:23 - 25 of 112

Look forward to it SD
Di

Dynamite - 22 Feb 2005 16:14 - 26 of 112

I have had difficulty deciding whether to buy VTI or HYR. Last week I bought HYR but seeing the news on VTI, the orginal owner of Hydrodec and 38% shareholder of HYR, I bought into VTI today as well. Both these companies have a very good future.
Di

stockdog - 22 Feb 2005 17:12 - 27 of 112

Very wise hedge Di - I am sure they are both interesting - hope to join you there soon. I did something similar with BFC and DOO - of course they're not related (yet!)

SD

FT - 22 Feb 2005 22:30 - 28 of 112

found a fantastic water cleaning system, very competitive market and no copy protection. am interested in finding out more about the oil filter. what other technology is out there to achieve this? can anybody help?

stockdog - 23 Feb 2005 20:49 - 29 of 112

Di, If you see this before you look at VTI thread, ditto. Need your thoughts, please.

SD

chad - 23 Feb 2005 22:10 - 30 of 112

I know Shares mag has tipped this one recently, just wondered if they've had anything to say about VTI in the past?

Dynamite - 23 May 2005 11:08 - 31 of 112

HYR appears to have bottomed out at 16p last week and has now risen around 10% per day for the past 3 days. This is such a brilliant company that they deserve to have a much higher price. Someone knows something though...the buys are big and so some are coming up as sells because the price has moved up by the time they appear.

Dynamite - 23 May 2005 11:42 - 32 of 112

lovely two day chart
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ethel - 23 May 2005 22:07 - 33 of 112

Chart does'nt look too good,but the sp has gone up a bit in the last two days on no news.I don't think they are worth much until they build more plants.The share has only been around for a few months.However,Fidelity is in,if I'm correct.
A great GREEN share,but the sp has doubled since January so the shorters are around the corner even if the possibilities are great....!!!!It is very difficult at the moment with the small caps and there seems to be an allergy to anything that smacks of engineering.Big brother Virotec seems more resilient.Hard to know what to do with such a young stock.
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