Legins
- 31 Oct 2003 11:01
Mack1705
- 04 Oct 2004 17:13
- 144 of 279
I had expected to see a big T sell appear after hours, but no sign yet.
All that seems to have happened today is the MMs have closed the spread to 7.75p-8p from 7.75p-8.25p on what is below daily average trading volume.
Mack1705
- 05 Oct 2004 11:45
- 145 of 279
lots of sells going through today, but the SP ticks up!
all very strange!
bonfield
- 05 Oct 2004 14:24
- 146 of 279
I'm looking to buy but the 7.75-8.25% spread is putting me off. Is it worth waiting for this to narrow? I too thought the large no of sells should have dropped the price....shome mishtake shurely?
Mack1705
- 05 Oct 2004 15:06
- 147 of 279
thanks Bonfield,
what is really confusing me is that I was quoted 7.8p to sell and 7.92p to buy
this bears no resemblence to the current quoted spread of 7.75p-8.25p
seems to me the MMs want the mid price to be showing at 8p for some reason
yesterday EVO dropped their spread to 7p-8p which reduced the mid to 7.875p and raised their spread this morning to 7.25p-8.25p which got the mid back to 8p...
I'm sure EVO must have a reason for doing this I just can't fathom out why???
bonfield
- 05 Oct 2004 16:55
- 148 of 279
my broker is TDW, and they quoted 8.2, by the sound of it I can do a lot better. I saw one trade for 480 shares go through at 7.95 presumably a sell? last trade was 10k at 7.75, another sell, so will look to get a price closer to 8p or under if possible in next few days.
Mack1705
- 05 Oct 2004 17:15
- 149 of 279
very interesting Bonfield
looks like the MMs are pretty undecided on what is the right price to sell stock to the punters...interesting that one punter paid 8.25p for 50,000 shares this morning
just before the close my broker(Charles Stanley) was offering stock at 7.92p
I can only assume that the trade at 7.95p was a buy and all the trades at 7.75p and 7.8p are sells
probably need to shop around for best price at the moment however the MMs do seem keen to sweep up shares at 7.75p from holders losing their nerve!
lostcause
- 05 Oct 2004 18:15
- 150 of 279
The trades at 7.95 today were buys. Plenty of sells though, doesn't seem to make sense. I bought some of these last week for 7.95 using Halifax, who I have to say are pretty useless. However, I had to get a quote approx 8 times at 8.20 before they offered them at 7.95 - so just keep pressing that button!
Mack1705
- 06 Oct 2004 12:45
- 151 of 279
MMs are playing a very tight game today
can't buy even 1,000 shares at less than 8.15p and if you want 50,000 you need to pay full 8.25p
looks like something is getting ready to blow!
Mack1705
- 06 Oct 2004 15:00
- 152 of 279
maybe not he's back on 7.92p to sellto punters!!!
bonfield
- 06 Oct 2004 15:30
- 153 of 279
all my quotes have been 8.2p with TDW, should I get another broker?
Mack1705
- 06 Oct 2004 16:17
- 154 of 279
bonfield,
they are taking the piss now!
back up to 8.25p for buys of 1,000 shares or more
how can they justify a 5% increase in purchase price based on the trades today which have been mainly sells...
Mack1705
- 06 Oct 2004 16:40
- 155 of 279
well with 120k shares changing hands (less than 10,000) the MMs haven't made alot of commission today, in fact it doesn't look as though they were really open for business at this trading level!
see what tomorrow brings...
bonfield
- 07 Oct 2004 09:58
- 156 of 279
right, in at 7.95, thx Mack for saving me a few quid, I'll be a lot more careful with spreads in future.
Mack1705
- 07 Oct 2004 11:20
- 157 of 279
bonfield,
definitely one to watch closely
L2 information suggests that we are in a very tight trading range...quite a few of the MMs are taking in very small amounts of stock at 7.75p and then moving the spread back up to sell shares at 8.15p/8.25p
WINS on the other hand seems to be buying in at 7.75p and selling at 7.83p!!!
can only conclude that there aren't any large buy or sell orders at the moment.
probably no bad thing if it introduces some stability to share price and develops a floor which allows price to rise significantly as we get closer to the Interim results(they posted the results last year on 15th December - ECKs web site is suggesting the results will be out in November)...
Mack1705
- 07 Oct 2004 12:01
- 158 of 279
somebody has snapped up 50,000 @ 7.83p!
thesaurus
- 07 Oct 2004 21:32
- 159 of 279
just looked at the 12 month chart.this has taken a beating.alot of ramping earlier on in the year
bonfield
- 08 Oct 2004 14:54
- 160 of 279
directors options have been rebased at 7.88p which is good. They have some incentive now to get the shares moving.
Mack1705
- 08 Oct 2004 15:11
- 161 of 279
well spotted Bonfield
this is brilliant news
if you look closely at the terms of the option agreement you will see that the option price can only be exercised if the share price is more than:-
7.88p x (15%+RPI) x (15% +RPI) x (15% +RPI)
assuming RPI averages at 2.75% for the next 3 yrs the share price needs to hit at least:-
13p
in addition eps has to be more than 1.5p per share....
it now makes perfect sense why the shares have been stuck at around 8p for the last two months!!!
time to top up I think!!!
guru666
- 08 Oct 2004 16:49
- 162 of 279
definitely got a point there Mack!
why would the directors choose now to redefine terms of 'old' and 'out the money' options???
bearing in mind interims are out in November(ECK website hints at November but gives no specific date) why would the directors agree to accept a new option price unless they reckoned the newsflow in the run up and beyond the interims announcement would be anything other than positive???
looks like the directors are calling the bottom of the recent slide in ECK share price....looks like a vote of confidence in ECK going forward?
surprised there wasn't alot more buying on the back of this decision today!!!
Mack 1705
- 08 Oct 2004 17:09
- 163 of 279
Guru,
don't disagree, obviously the 'new options' must have a much better chance of being in the money within next 12 months than the ones they are giving up!
bearing in mind the terms attaching to the exercise price it does look like the directors are also of the opinion that the shares are worth alot more than they are currently trading at...
I also take your point about the timing of the RNS disclosure...it is potentially only 4/6 weeks until we get a trading update, which probably will be in line with expectations or better, so it is more than likely that the share price will begin to drift upwards?
have a good weekend, be lucky!