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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

skinny - 09 Feb 2012 15:28 - 14791 of 81564

Rosie & Jamie?

mnamreh - 09 Feb 2012 15:29 - 14792 of 81564

.

Stan - 09 Feb 2012 15:35 - 14793 of 81564

Did someone mention a Jury?

ahoj - 09 Feb 2012 15:41 - 14794 of 81564

why lloyds crashed?

ahoj - 09 Feb 2012 16:03 - 14795 of 81564

btw, Iran is slowly calming down, the sanctions. The president is in danger of losing his job....... These internal problems are in the best interest of the west.

People have no say yet!!

Fred1new - 09 Feb 2012 16:34 - 14796 of 81564

You have seen the Ken Dodd sympathy vote and a lot of people thought he was bound to be dead by now from his "heart condition".

Also, after that court case the sale of suitcases went up.

skinny - 09 Feb 2012 16:39 - 14797 of 81564

US banks agree $25bn mortgage settlement

Five of the biggest US banks have agreed to provide $25bn in assistance to homeowners to settle claims over improper foreclosure practices.

The deal, struck with the US government and most US states, follows allegations of abusive practices by lenders during the country's housing collapse.

The banks involved are Bank of America, Citigroup, Wells Fargo, JP Morgan Chase and Ally Financial.

greekman - 09 Feb 2012 17:18 - 14798 of 81564

Hi Mnamreh,

You say, 'I bet you know plenty of 'slags' who 'got away with it' and a few innocent punters who got what they didn't deserve'.

How true. Far more who were guilty and 'go off' than innocents who did not.
In fact I can only think of 1 person who I thought was innocent who got sent down. The reason was probably that he looked a villain. Mind you he did have a record as long as your arm.

I have lost count of the times I have heard repeat offenders leaving court and greeting their mates with 'I got off'. Strange how few say that they were found not guilty because they had not done it!



This_is_me - 10 Feb 2012 07:23 - 14799 of 81564

Ive heard from the grapevine that our Arry has accepted the England
Job. He has organised a few friendlies ?

1) British Virgin islands (AWAY)
2) Cayman Islands (AWAY)
... 3) Monaco (AWAY)
4) Switzerland (AWAY)
5) Jersey (AWAY)

greekman - 10 Feb 2012 07:52 - 14800 of 81564

This-is me.

That can't be true, he would need 4 more dogs.

Mind you, a lot of people still think OJ Simpson was guilty.

skinny - 10 Feb 2012 11:06 - 14801 of 81564

Irishman makes "billion-euro home" of shredded notes

TANKER - 10 Feb 2012 13:12 - 14802 of 81564

M KING and is gang at the BOE .
have destoyed the savers and these will turn out to be
very bad for the country any one putting money into a
pension must be dumb . stop now you would be better
putting it in to shares land houses paintings .
saving now is for the dumb .

TANKER - 10 Feb 2012 14:26 - 14803 of 81564

check out cleggs wife on windfarms . it stinks her family raking in millions from windfarms

This_is_me - 10 Feb 2012 15:22 - 14804 of 81564

"Wednesday this week saw the acquittal of Harry Redknapp and Milan Mandaric on tax evasion charges in a case that has been running for five years. There are some more facts and figures surrounding the case which make interesting reading.

The amount of tax allegedly evaded amounted to something like £30,000. The case cost an estimated £8 Million to bring to its conclusion. Redknap and Mandaric have paid an estimated £105 million in tax to the Inland Revenue during their careers. I have no idea of the strength or otherwise of the case against the pair, (although it obviously wasn’t strong enough to convince a jury) but this seems an action motivated by something other than sensible principles.

Mandaric chose to come to this country and invest his money here. He could have gone anywhere in the world, but he came here. Every penny he invested here helped to create and maintain employment of people who, in turn, paid their own share of tax. Redknap, through a rare and highly valued skill in one field, generated enough income to pay millions of pounds in tax to the revenue each year. And how are the two of them repaid?...by being hounded through the courts over a sum of money which is the equivalent of about £200 for an average taxpayer!

I wouldn’t blame either of them one little bit if they upped sticks and took up residence in Jersey, Monaco or some other tax haven where the Inland Revenue would be due nothing. Until we stop treating the people contributing most to the nations coffers like common criminals or cash cows to be systematically plundered, we’ll never attract or retain the sort of people who can create wealth, employment and prosperity for the rest of us."

greekman - 10 Feb 2012 15:41 - 14805 of 81564

When the evidence is there, if sufficient to take to trial, there should be a trial.
Or are you saying that because a person with money comes to this country, or/and they pay a large amount in taxes, they should not be charged with what was a prima facie case.

If you have a system where those who generate enough income to pay millions of pound in tax are allowed to get away with what is fully owed, you open the flood gates completely to those who can avoid paying their full dues.
I pay all my taxes, which I am sure knock my standard of living, far harder than the super rich.

I am not one to knock the rich, as I believe in capitalism and strongly believe that we need the money generators of this country, but that does not mean they should not pay their way.

As to tax in general, it is far too high.
Reason, to pay for all the waste generated by the government, coupled with the cost to pay for all the spongers of our society.

So two choices.
You either pursue those who fiddle their taxes or you don't.
Which way would you take.

mnamreh - 10 Feb 2012 15:47 - 14806 of 81564

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Fred1new - 10 Feb 2012 15:50 - 14807 of 81564

If anyone who is breaking the law in this country, whether they are rich or poor they are subjects of the same laws of the country as anybody else.

Otherwise the UK becomes another Banana republic.

I don't know whether the pair mentioned are guilty of defrauding the country of tax where they appeared to have made their money, or not, but I can see in this case why the Tax Authorities were suspicious.

My own feelings are that I would like to see a great many other leading figures of the country investigated, and prosecuted alongside other scroungers on the state.

As far as the benefits of some of the individuals to the country is concerned, there are many others who would be able to take on their responsibilities probably at less cost and possibly more advantageously to this country.

It is people who make kings, not kings who make countries.

mnamreh - 10 Feb 2012 15:58 - 14808 of 81564

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aldwickk - 10 Feb 2012 16:36 - 14809 of 81564

Place your bet's , 2 to 1 he get's off most of the charges , and walk's free.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16531749

Fred1new - 10 Feb 2012 16:50 - 14810 of 81564

N,

Agree with sentiment, but if you don't proceed on evidence or information at hand then you are allowing bias (personal or not) to cloud judgement.

If defraud of the country, then the culprit should recompense the country, if necessary by confiscation of his chattels.

I have known quite a few honest successful business men and a couple of similar women. Some were highly intelligent (not only the ones who agreed with me), but others seem to have the ability to apply due diligence and be consistent in what they were doing.

Also, they spotted the product, or market and plough it for all it was worth.

A friend said simple but profitable.

-------
Gene pool.

Much of a muchness, Only good when in the right culture or environment.

Look at some of the clowns in government. 8-)
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