any one got a feelling in their water how far LLoyds will go looking to to buy but just dont know when they are low enough

Britain will launch its biggest retail bank rescue on Monday when the four largest, HBOS, Royal Bank of Scotland, Lloyds TSB and Barclays, ask for a combined 35 billion pound lifeline, the Sunday Times reported.

there is a much more in the report on Reuters and it does not make comfortable reading

Buying opportunity on Monday

what is this......a double act between cynic and kirkup on these threads

i posted my bit on all the bank sites as it seemed relevant to them all

i know cynic............i just found it funny that kirkup posted his same comments immediately after yours on all the other threads

ah ... had not really noticed .... was busy enjoying the sunshine on the golf course and then trimming (actually hard pruning) my wisteria

I hope you are right nkirkup because as of late I've been stuffed so much I don't need a taxidermist !.

i don't see any hurry to buy tomorrow, but certainly worth monitoring very closely

HBOS deal called off should benifit both parties.

i agree.......i think it was done in haste cos of sp plummeting cos of unsubstantiated made up rumours.

wish the media would shut up.....they r making economy much worse, in fact i think they r going out of way to make everyone unemployed next year cos thats whats going to happen. when russia went to georgia that silenced things.

Starting to collapse, -11%

It would be intresting to know in advance, what level of dividend will be retained for LLOY's.

The current sp relates to an equivalent of a 25% dividend or a PE of about 4.

I am watching closley for another overdone drop as a possible re-entry point into this stock.

Good luck to all holders.

Target price on the other side is 147p.

I think it will be considerably lower.

Fall in LLOY sp suggests market does not like proposed HBOS takeover in front of a probable collapse in the UK housing market next year. LLOY's directors are acting like Fred Goodwin did when he outbid BARC for ABN/AMRO. If this deal goes through LLOY shareholders do not get a dividend until 2010, why should they vote for the deal? Or are they all turkeys waiting for christmas.

I agree halifax it is really strange, except historically they wanted to strike a deal . . . .but then the Markets saw no wrong. The fact is "now" HBOS is a poison that could invade the whole LLOY business....and I don't like it, yet we are unlikely to be able to make any change, if that's what they want.
Let's not forget that Institutions maybe want a safe haven for their HBOS-investment. Furthermore, they don't care if LLOY does fail, as long as they can get out with saved faces.
LLOYDS appear to believe it's (still) a good deal... with a little tweek to the figure!

Down to 155p could go sub 150p today.

Only a matter of time until Lloyds pulls out of deal. The only benficiaries are Gordon Brown, shareholders that also hold hbod and don't want to be wiped out and members of Lloyds board looking for a peerage

LLOY wil def NOT pull out .... whby should they? ..... they have picked up a plum for the best part of bugger all, and further, the gov't which is (or will be shortly) a major shareholder, sponsored the whole thing

The market seems to disagree

the market is not, i think, saying the deal won't through, but merely that the lower LLOY falls, the less they will have to pay for HBOS .... meanwhile, buying/selling HSBC was much less of a gamble this morning!