woody57
- 14 Aug 2006 16:47
Nice rises Friday and today,after being tipped up by Money Week magazine ,with first half sales up 86%,and a cheaper Broadband bundle than Car Phone warehouse,a forward p/e of 15.4 and a likely takeover target seems the one to be on in a guarateed consolidating sector.
Shareshop
- 02 Apr 2007 09:32
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Pipex down 10% plus big sells
cynic
- 02 Apr 2007 09:35
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and your point is? ....... it is as undisputable that PXC is for sale that there is also a lot of very short term money invested
Marcel1970
- 02 Apr 2007 10:02
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I Agree with cynic lots of T10 will be forced to close there deals out today
Shareshop
- 02 Apr 2007 10:36
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I was just hoping to hear something about the takeover & SP will go up this week.
cynic
- 02 Apr 2007 10:42
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join the crowd! ...... suspect nothing until after close on Thursday - i.e. start of long w/e .... don't think it is relevant that Friday is not a formal b/h in either US or Europe
Shareshop
- 02 Apr 2007 10:43
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From the Mail on Sunday
Favourites Log Out of Pipex Deal
TWO frontrunners to buy broadband firm Pipex have dropped out of the auction, throwing into doubt the price that entrepreneur Peter Dubens can win for his internet empire.
Cable giant Virgin Media withdrew over concerns about regulatory challenges to a deal, while satellite rival BSkyB decided to continue building internet customers from its own subscribers.
Virgin was seen as favourite.
The race now looks to be between BT and rival The Carphone Warehouse, which last year paid Pounds 370 million for AOL's 1.5 million UK internet customers. Dubens hoped to achieve a price of more than Pounds 450 million for Pipex, which has 570,000 customers.
In an exclusive interview, Steve Burch, chief executive of Virgin Media, told Financial Mail he would this week announce a major deal with troubled telecom group Cable Wireless or Tiscali to sell high- speed internet services.
neil777
- 02 Apr 2007 16:02
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All it takes is two! hopefully desperate to acquire
Shareshop
- 02 Apr 2007 16:09
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I hope so........
ROARGIANT
- 02 Apr 2007 17:18
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i believe agm on the 13th of this month.dont expect a statement untill then.
cynic
- 02 Apr 2007 17:34
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well spotted .... assuredly PXC will have to make some sensible noises at that juncture if they have not done so before
PARKIN
- 02 Apr 2007 18:00
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THATS ON A FRIDAY ONLY REASON I KNOW THAT IVE GOT A DENTAL A APPOINTMENT FOR THAT DAY IN THE MORNING
Strawbs
- 02 Apr 2007 20:55
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Personally I'm not convinced they'll find a buyer. If they're putting the company up for sale they clearly don't see much shareholder value being generated with the current business going forward. Assuming post 172 above is correct, then Carphone Warehouse paid less for nearly 3 times as many customers. I can't see the wi-fi and hosting side of the business justifying the additional cost, and I'm not sure if anyone apart from BT would be interested anyway. I think Carphone has enough problems with customer service and intergrating the AOL acquisition to take on another supplier (at what may be a premium), and if the reports are to be believed, Sky and Virgin have already dropped out. BT probably make money on supplying the lines to Pipex to run their service, and already have large hosting solutions, so why buy at a premium?
Just my thoughts. Do your own research. I don't hold, and don't see any reason to buy at present. Not that I've got any money anyway.... :-(
Strawbs.
cynic
- 03 Apr 2007 07:38
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Todya's Times reiterates the story that BT is now the only serious bidder ..... this is something of a nuisance, though i am quite sure BT will press ahead and it is still not impossible that a further predator will appear at the last minute.
and just to remind you all .....
The Sunday TimesMarch 25, 2007
BT secures regulatory approval for possible 407m Pipex tie-upElizabeth Judge
BT has secured regulatory approval for a tie-up with Pipex, it emerged yesterday, as it joined a group of bidders tabling offers for the 407 million broadband player.
zscrooge
- 03 Apr 2007 08:56
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Just because Dubens wants out does not relate to shareholder value.
Forecasts are for profit and eps to quadruple Dec 06 to Dec 08.
Dubens has already sold one co and clearly is a master of spotting potential.
Wimax is a potential killer for 3G, as well as BT's traditional phone lines. The hosting side is the most profitable, having more margin than broadband. CW may go for PXC given the former's appalling backbone which cannot cope. Which still leaves Vodaphone, desperately needing a presence and with 3G a dead duck. Or a foreign player...or BT.
zscrooge
- 03 Apr 2007 09:02
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Oh and maybe BT need Pipex before Microsoft get there.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/22/microsoft_tv_spectrum/
And er are Carphone out of it? LOL
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/money/broadband/article1604782.ece
cynic
- 03 Apr 2007 09:29
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don't understand the point you are trying to make ...... as i see it, PXC is for sale; BT wants; it would be preferable if there were others fighting for the biz ..... one way or another, PXC is almost certainly going to be sold and not for a song, albeit that it may be closer to 19/20 than say 22/23
zscrooge
- 03 Apr 2007 09:32
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A few responses to Strawbs.
zscrooge
- 03 Apr 2007 10:11
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Shares in Pipex Communications may have closed 1.75p worse at 14.75p, but the word among small stock investors is that Virgin Media is about to launch a bid for the company worth 20p per share. The stock has been in the takeover spotlight for a month or so, and although Virgin has not made a formal approach, Pipex backers believe that an offer will come as soon as this week.
Published: 03 April 2007
http://news.independent.co.uk/business/analysis_and_features/article2414824.ece
cynic
- 03 Apr 2007 10:12
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i often agree with Strawbs, but not this time
DSTOREY9916
- 03 Apr 2007 10:47
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People shouldn't get mislead into thinking that the sale of AOL has any relevance on the sale of Pipex, two totally different plays! For a telco looking forward Pipex has a myriad of lucrative components whereas AOL could only offer BB customer bulk.