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AO world. (AO.)     

Juzzle - 02 Jun 2015 09:11 - 18 of 37

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Juzzle - 02 Jun 2015 09:12 - 19 of 37

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skinny - 02 Jun 2015 10:05 - 20 of 37

Yes its hardly inspiring!

skinny - 21 Jul 2015 08:12 - 21 of 37

AGM and Interim Management Statement

Juzzle - 21 Sep 2015 08:27 - 22 of 37

Very noticeable that in today's update they mention only turnover, nothing else. Except a warning that they've been spending more than usual:

"..We have accelerated our investment in the AO.com brand over the quarter through tv advertising and other media, which is essential to the long term future of the business as well as growing revenue in the near-term..."

Sounds like they are laying down excuses ahead of revealing an increased loss in November.

skinny - 24 Nov 2015 07:11 - 23 of 37

Half Yearly Report

Financial Highlights1

· Total revenue for the period increased by 21.7% to £264.3m (2014: £217.1m).

· AO website sales2 for the UK3 up 23.7% to £214.8m (2014: £173.7m), with total UK revenue up 14.5% to £248.6m (2014: £217.1m); a further gain in market share.

· Europe4 annualised exit run rate revenue of €61.2m (based on September sales)5. Europe revenue for the period was €21.7m (2014: €nil).

· Group operating loss of £8.9m (2014: £0.9m profit) reflecting the ongoing investment in German operations and start-up costs in further Europe territories of £0.9m (2014: £3.3m).

· UK adjusted EBITDA6 of £5.1m (2014: £7.3m), with UK adjusted EBITDA margin7 decreasing to 2.0% due to investment in marketing to increase brand awareness and investment in overheads to drive margin and ensure resilience across the business (2014: 3.4%).

· Europe adjusted EBITDA loss of £9.6m (2014: £nil) representing trading losses in our European territories from launch bringing Group adjusted EBITDA to a loss of £4.5m (2014: £7.3m profit).

· Group net funds position8 as at 30 September 2015 was £29.6m (2014: £43.9m), with cash being £35.6m (2014: £50.1m).

· Loss per share of 1.58p (2014: earnings of 0.12p).

Operational Highlights

· UK NPS9 remains at its historically high level of over 80% with AO.de higher still reflecting continued high levels of customer satisfaction.

· UK repeat business metrics have continued to improve during the period, as has unprompted brand recognition, helping us grow the level of new and loyal customers we attract.

· Our UK business was awarded "Best Online Shop" by Which?

· We are pleased with the progress of our audio visual ("AV") and small domestic appliance ("SDA") categories in the UK.

· Overall UK number of completed orders10 up 23.0% to 0.73m (2014: 0.60m).

· We look forward to opening our new regional office and distribution centre in Bergheim, Germany in 2016 which will provide approximately 35,000 square metres of warehouse space.

· We are pleased to announce we expect to commence trading in the Netherlands in Spring 2016.

Outlook

· The second half has started well although we still have peak trading ahead of us, including Black Friday later this week. In the UK we are on track with our plans for the year as a whole.

· Our early success in Germany has given us the confidence to continue to invest heavily in marketing to drive revenue growth. Given this we expect to maintain at least the level of net P&L investment made in the first half of the year through the second half.

· Whilst we will incur some early set up costs for our operations in the Netherlands this financial year we do not expect a material impact to Group adjusted EBITDA.

· The business is on track with progress against its long term strategic goals.

Juzzle - 24 Nov 2015 10:27 - 24 of 37

After corkscrewing sideways for 10 weeks around that 160 line.. the chart might reasonably have been expected to show a step change (say 25p) upward or downward on issue of a half-year trading statement..

"... While the company has sought to win over investors, some commentators remain unconvinced and have warned that it could struggle to compete during Black Friday this week (27 November) because of its relatively poor brand awareness and low positioning on Google..."

(cityam.com)


As a company totally dependent on its online activity, the slightest technical glitch on this hectic Friday will hit AO harder than its rivals.

Last week I took delivery of a new AEG tall stainless steel fridge - bought from Curry's at a better price than AO, delivered promptly. AO were also not the best deal on two previous appliance purchases I made.
EDIT: AO were 5.27% dearer than Curry's on exact comparison, including same AEG cashback offer. AO's boast of being best on price because of no street presence is a myth.


Juzzle - 24 Nov 2015 11:11 - 25 of 37

At present they seem able to get away with "expansion costs" as an excuse for losses. Each time they come out with a loss they can point to another new territory, to maintain the image of ongoing growth, and convince some that it will all come good eventually.

As if getting big and famous worldwide takes priority over making and sharing profits.

Juzzle - 25 Nov 2015 07:57 - 26 of 37

from The Telegraph:


Sell AO World as shares slump on losses
The online retailer is barely making any profits despite soaring sales, says Questor

AO World [LON:AO], the online white goods retailer, slumped to a loss in the first-half sending the shares down by 15pc yesterday.
The concept of internet retailing is a nice idea. With no bricks and mortar and a low cost website the prices that can be offered beat many shop-based alternatives. Consumers should flock to the service in droves and once a dominant market position has been built up then prices can recover and the company can generate huge profits from its revenue base.
The theory is nice, but AO World is proving that the reality is somewhat different. Revenue is following the script, up 22pc to £264m in the six months to the end of September, but not much else. The company slumped to a first-half pre-tax loss of £8m, as it said the cost of expanding into Germany is proving painful

There are also worrying issues in the more mature UK business where operating profits slumped 60pc to £1.3m, on revenue of £249m, or a profit margin of half a percent.
Questor is not the only one to question the logic of this company. The shares more than halved in value this year and anyone who got involved when shares peaked at 412p on their first days trading in February last year is now nursing painful capital losses.
On top of that. there are a number of reasons why the shares could continue to fall.
Consensus forecasts estimate an adjusted pre-tax loss of £4.3m, from £596m in revenue for the year ended March. The company would need a remarkable reversal of fortunes during the crucial Christmas period to achieve those numbers.
The company is growing very fast, and profits could eventually begin to follow the sales, and rise.
However, Questor is concerned that it may take a long time to reach the profit tipping point and cash could get tight long before then. The company had net cash of £29.6m at the end of September, down from £44m at the same time last year.
We highlighted AO’s bubble valuation in April last year, and advised selling this time last year (217.3p, November 26) and that position remains. Questor would stay well away from the shares in this internet retailer as profits prove hard to come by. Sell.

Juzzle - 25 Nov 2015 08:05 - 27 of 37

The Independent:

AO World continues to prioritise growth over profits

Investors’ patience with AO World is wearing thin as the online white goods retailer continues to prioritise growth over profits. AO plunged 23p to 140p as it swung to a first-half loss of £8m from a slight profit last year after heavy investment in marketing in the UK and Germany.

Revenues rose 22 per cent to £264.3m, but news that it is launching in the Netherlands in the spring sparked concerns that the company will remain loss-making for some time yet.

Start-ups breaking untrodden ground typically put growth ahead of profits – think Twitter for example – but 15-year-old AO World is trying to crack a market with plenty of established players able to replicate the online model.

The shares have slumped since the controversial float in February last year that valued it at £1.2bn, prompting its broker Jefferies to later admit the price was “punchy”.

Juzzle - 25 Nov 2015 09:04 - 28 of 37

History repeating..

I am old enough to remember another high-flying seller of appliances -

John Bloom

AO World listed 50 years after shares in John Bloom's appliance company collapsed into liquidation.

No connection, and no direct comparison. Just an interesting memory, of someone who revolutionised the marketing of appliances.

Juzzle - 26 Nov 2015 20:53 - 29 of 37

Black Friday (tomorrow)

"Online retailer AO World is offering up to £100 off washing machines, with prices starting from £179; more than 25 per cent off American fridge freezers, starting from £399, and up to 70 per cent off vacuum cleaners (from £49) and small appliances, including microwaves from £59." (city-am)


That should briefly help turnover - and increase losses.

skinny - 31 Mar 2016 14:49 - 30 of 37

Trading Statement

AO World plc ("the Company" or "AO"), the UK's leading online retailer of major domestic appliances, today gives a pre-close trading update for its full financial year; the twelve months to 31 March 2016.

Our UK business performed strongly during the fourth quarter with revenue and EBITDA ahead of our expectations as we continued to gain market share. As a result, we expect full year UK revenue growth to be c.18.5% with revenue growth from AO.com to be c. 27% and UK adjusted EBITDA to be c. £17m. Expectations for the UK business in the next financial year remain unchanged.

In Europe we started trading in the Netherlands on 1st March, leveraging our German infrastructure. We expect revenue in our European segment to be within the current range of expectations. Our European adjusted EBITDA for the full year will be slightly better than expected due to our focus on driving efficiencies. We expect such focus to continue until we move in to our new regional distribution centre in Bergheim later in the year, when we will look to accelerate volume growth.

Our next update to the market will be our preliminary statement on 8 June 2016.

skinny - 31 Mar 2016 14:49 - 31 of 37

Numis Buy 180.45 250.00 250.00 Retains

Jefferies International Buy 180.45 192.00 192.00 Reiterates

skinny - 31 Mar 2016 14:51 - 32 of 37

AO World rocks to profits beat

Tim3 - 08 Jun 2016 09:23 - 33 of 37

So losses at AO widen yet again.

I have my doubts that you can make a profit in electricals with an internet only operation.

For all the internets popularity profits often come from physical stores where despite higher costs you have more opportunity to sell customers more and in particular profitable add ons it also gives you a valuable edge as people can actually see/use before they buy.Without this you are really just competing on price and there are plenty on the net happy to sell at virtually no profit or at a loss.

The one positive is that if the valuation dropped enough it may become attractive to an existing (profitable) retailer where with integration they may be able to make it profitable.

imo

hlyeo98 - 12 Jan 2017 11:50 - 34 of 37

AO World revenues up


Online electrical retailer AO World's UK business continued to grow with ao.com revenue up by 10.3% year on year and overall UK revenue up by 8.9%, against tough comparatives.

The group said that in Europe revenue for the period was up 28.4% year on year, on a constant currency basis, reflecting a period of focus on building its logistics capabilities, capacity and a solid base for the business.

Overall group revenue was up 12.3% for the quarter, year on year.

The group expects the performance for the full year to fall within the guidance previously given but remains cautious about the final quarter given the uncertain UK economic outlook, currency impacts on supplier pricing and the possible effect on consumer demand.

Chief executive John Roberts said: "AO continues to make progress on its long term plan; delivering sales growth across all categories and territories, and convincing more customers to experience the AO Way.

"We performed well over our peak period, particularly through Black Friday, with the sheer dedication of our teams enabling us to deliver to our customers as promised.

"We also delivered strategic progress during the quarter. We launched computing in the UK, and audio-visual in Germany, retailing both these categories the AO Way - offering a simply better customer experience, executed brilliantly by a brand and team that customers and suppliers trust. Early trading in computing has been encouraging and sales are building as we invest in attracting traffic to the category on ao.com, while both our businesses in Europe continue to gain traction and delight customers.

"Looking ahead we have three months left of the current financial year and are mindful of the uncertain economic outlook. However, we remain confident that our market leading proposition will continue to drive customers to experience the AO Way and enter the New Year excited by the opportunities ahead."

cynic - 12 Jan 2017 12:14 - 35 of 37

from a consumer's point of view, i believe AO is seen as pretty good all round - never used them myself
however, there have long been rumours that the company is not in very strong financial health

personally, i see no merit in buying the shares

dreamcatcher - 12 Jan 2017 12:25 - 36 of 37

I think their after care protection/insurance makes the money. White goods are bulky and profit wise hmmmm.

skinny - 12 Jan 2017 12:38 - 37 of 37

Take your pick :-

12 Jan Numis Buy 169.70 250.00 250.00 Retains

12 Jan Shore Capital Hold 169.70 - - Retains

12 Jan Panmure Gordon Sell 169.70 123.00 123.00 Reiterates
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