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Traders Thread - Thursday 18th December (CCL)     

Crocodile - 17 Dec 2003 21:33

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U.S. stocks ended the session little changed with the Dow up 15.70, S&P up 1.35 and the Nasdaq down 2.96

National Express coach and rail firm said trading for the year to was in line with market expectations, as customer numbers grew at its UK trains division.and it was comfortable with full-year forecasts of 100 million pounds profits

United Business Media publishing, broadcasting and market research company said that second half revenues should be ahead of last year, despite the weakness of the U.S. dollar. Trading conditions in the U.S. had improved and there has been a greater than expected recovery in Asia. It also said it was buying Eurisko, a market research company in Italy, for 33 million euros.Britannic Group said it was on track to resume dividend payments of 10 pence per share to shareholders and annual bonuses for most of its with-profits policyholders following extensive restructuring. It has also paid back 50 million in bank borrowings.

Redrow housebuilder said it expected to raise its annual dividend by at least 20 percent this financial year and maintain similar growth next year, buoyed by strong housing sales.

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09.30 Nov PSNCR, 7bn exp. 09.30 Chancellor Brown Comments on the Pre-Budget Report 09.30 Nov Retail Sales m/m, 0.1% exp. 09.30 Nov Preliminary M4 Money Supply y/y, 6.7% exp. 09.30 Nov CML, BBA & BSA Lending

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13.30 Initial Jobless Claims (w/e 13/12) 15.00 Nov Leading Indicators, 0.3% exp. 17.00 Dec Philly Fed, 25.90 prev.

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08.00 Dec German IFO Expectations, 108.7 prev. 11.00 3rd Quarter Labour Costs

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Melnibone - 18 Dec 2003 10:48 - 19 of 60

Well done TP.

Good call.

Would be obliged if you all took profit now,
I've got my eye on a few stocks that I want to come down a bit. ;-)

Melnibone.

ThePlayboy - 18 Dec 2003 10:50 - 20 of 60

melnibone had buy sig on that run at 65, still a long unless it brks 82 atm!

little woman - 18 Dec 2003 10:56 - 21 of 60

:-), I see everyone a bit more positive today.

vasey - 18 Dec 2003 10:57 - 22 of 60

Melnibone: could you start by kicking SMWH on the way to other stocks that have caught your eye?

ThePlayboy - 18 Dec 2003 10:58 - 23 of 60

Liitle women-bit frustrating i missed that .3 above high on ftse though :0)

little woman - 18 Dec 2003 11:00 - 24 of 60

As Melnibone has point out to me in the past - a profit is a profit is a profit when its taken, not just a postion!

little woman - 18 Dec 2003 11:04 - 25 of 60

Does anyone know what going on with DXNS - shut up suddenly - todays Shares mag are negative on this one.

little woman - 18 Dec 2003 11:05 - 26 of 60

Was going to purchase DXNS yesterday, but decided not to as felt retailers not having a good christmas.

little woman - 18 Dec 2003 11:07 - 27 of 60

Having said that, if I still did CFDs I would consider going short on this one now!

little woman - 18 Dec 2003 11:11 - 28 of 60

Found out why from the traders room: http://www.uk-wire.com/cgi-bin/articles/200312181103434165T.html

Crocodile - 18 Dec 2003 11:19 - 29 of 60

Running a long on RANK, interesting early morning buying
Long term Short on WH Smiths, profit warning expected
Short Mytravel Need I say more
And Short Burberry, never did like that Tartan

Fundamentalist - 18 Dec 2003 12:01 - 30 of 60

LW - on a previous days trading thread you said you had a price target of 475p on LLOY. I would be grateful if you could explain to me how you came to this figure. I have done quite well out of LLOY in the past but always appear to sell out too early.

Crocodile - 18 Dec 2003 12:08 - 31 of 60

18/12 12:00 ANALYST RATINGS CHANGES AS OF 1200 GMT

BROKER & NEW RATING (FROM) TARGET (PREVIOUS)
COMPANY
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ABN Amro:
Heineken Reduce (Hold)
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Cheuvreux:
Bouygues Underperform (Outperform)
ILOG Underperform (Outperform)
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Citigroup Smith Barney:
Misys Hold (Sell)
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CSFB:
Unite 210P (185P)
Misys 190P (210P)
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Degroof:
Bekaert Hold (Accumulate)
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Fideuram Wargny:
Elior Buy (Hold) EUR7.8 (EUR7)
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Goldman Sachs:
Amadeus In-Line
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Ibersecurities:
Bankinter EUR39.8 (EUR34.9)
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JP Morgan:
Vodafone Overweight (Neutral) 160P (140P)
Telekom Austria Overweight (Neutral)
Telecom Italia Underweight (Neutral)
TeliaSonera Underweight (Neutral)
Bouygues EUR33 (EUR30)
Yukos US$14 (US$15.5)
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Lehman Bros:
Allianz Equalweight (Underweight)
Infineon EUR16.5 (EUR17.5)
Misys 265P
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Merrill Lynch:
Balfour Beatty Neutral
DS Smith Buy (Neutral)
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Morgan Stanley:
Royal & Sun Equalweight (Underweight)
Misys 270P
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Pictet:
Converium CHF72 (CHF70)
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Puilaetco:
Delhaize EUR46 (EUR47)
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UBS:
Generali Neutral (Buy)
Cementos Portland Neutral (Buy)
Folli-Follie Neutral (Buy)
Opap Neutral (Buy)
Hanson 430P (365P)
Stada EUR50 (EUR45)
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(END) Dow Jones Newswires
December 18, 2003 07:00 ET (12:00 GMT)

little woman - 18 Dec 2003 12:09 - 32 of 60

It was just a figure I pulled out of the sky!

I have bought & sold LLOY a lot earlier this year and regretted not hanging on to them each time - so this time I thought I'd sit it out and see.... I believe that despite all the problems the banks make, they just write thier debt off, and move on, so long term will always do well! Of course there are plenty of people (companies) out there they can charge to make up for their mistakes.

Fundamentalist - 18 Dec 2003 12:13 - 33 of 60

thanks lw, i was hoping for a more scientific method, but ho hum. I intend to sit on them until the results and the yr end divi and then see where they are

little woman - 18 Dec 2003 12:38 - 34 of 60

Sorry - but I also think LLOY has taken a lot of unjustified flak which is why the shares were doing so badly..... (Unlike ANL which was justified !)

Fundamentalist - 18 Dec 2003 12:49 - 35 of 60

I tend to agree, I dare say we have been in and out of lloyds at similar times. It will be interesting to see what they do with the cash they now have - share buy backs/special divi???

ThePlayboy - 18 Dec 2003 13:32 - 36 of 60

jobless 353k, exp 365k!

little woman - 18 Dec 2003 13:40 - 37 of 60

Reopened my CFD account! Long HBOS,DXNS,ULVR and short LLOY. Scapled a long ICI already, will only scalp today as got to go out for a hour or two soon.

Fundamentalist - 18 Dec 2003 13:46 - 38 of 60

why short lloy???
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