Proselenes
- 13 Aug 2011 04:53
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chuckles
- 24 Sep 2012 11:23
- 2062 of 2393
Now now Shortie, you should realise proramper's geology knowledge, experience and exploration expertise far exceeds that of the real professionals. Cue the poodle for response!
Proselenes
- 24 Sep 2012 11:30
- 2063 of 2393
The CoS is based upon.
Seal
Charge
Structure
Reservoir.
Loligo had seal, charge, reservoir and structure - therefore at the end its CoS was 100%.
People on here were quoting 10% CoS, some 20% - but in the end it was a 100% on all levels as it found reservoired hydrocarbons - good charge, good seal, good structure and with some optimal well placement after 3D, there will be good reservoir too, imo.
Most people have not got a clue how to work out CoS.
cynic
- 24 Sep 2012 11:40
- 2065 of 2393
i don't need to work out CoS as industry norm (approx 5/1) is common knowledge ...... the norm will then vary up or down depending on a number of factors, not least of which is subjective view as of course is the interpretation of the word "success"
hlyeo98
- 24 Sep 2012 11:53
- 2066 of 2393
Proselenes - 13 Jan 2012 13:00 - 107 of 2065
FOGL CoS is not low.
Toroa was 3.8% CoS and it failed.
Loligo, back in 2006, pre CSEM, pre more seismic studies etc.. had a CoS of 11.5% as rated by TRACS (Nov 2006).
At the AGM recently the board said the CoS was now, after all the new work from 2006, at the 20% level for Loligo.
Scotia well, given the excellent sands at Toroa and the implications for Scotia deep well, is also around 20% CoS imo.
Proselenes
- 24 Sep 2012 11:54
- 2067 of 2393
cynic, its quite easy really.
Seal / Charge / Reservoir / Structure
If all 4 were 100%
It would be 100 x 100 x 100 x 100 = 100,000,000
If as I suggest for Scotia is 60 Seal / 80 Charge / 80 Reservoir / 60 Structure
Then you get 60 x 80 x 80 x 60 = 23,000,000
So the CoS is therefore 23% (23,000,000 is 23% of 100,000,000).
Its all quite quite simple - nothing complex in it.
Proselenes
- 24 Sep 2012 11:55
- 2068 of 2393
hyleo, yes, and Loligo ended up being 100%.
Scotia is around 20% CoS (I think 23%).
Some will quote low, some will quote high - the drill bit is around 50 days from letting you know for real - and then the CoS will mean nothing, only the actual drill results.
hlyeo98
- 24 Sep 2012 12:20
- 2069 of 2393
CoS means nothing if it finds more gas.
Proselenes
- 24 Sep 2012 12:24
- 2070 of 2393
Based on the Tullow "TEN" field offshore Ghana I think it will be either oil, or a mix or oil and condensate.
Loligo is a condensate discovery - thats for sure imo - its just that until they drill a sweet spot and recover "liquids" its classed as a "gas discovery".
The moment they drill a sweet spot and get some liquids then its a "condensate discovery".
Proselenes
- 24 Sep 2012 12:30
- 2071 of 2393
C5 is condensate, and Loligo had strong C1 to C5 readings. It it were dry gas you would get strong C1 and C2.
Condensate reservoirs have strong C1 to C5 - which Loligo had.
All they need to do is drill a sweet spot next time around and get some samples and Loligo will be reclassified as a "condensate discovery".
Until a liquid sample is recovered from a better located well, its classed as a "gas discovery" only.
But I will get into all this later when I do the Loligo results post.
cynic
- 24 Sep 2012 13:33
- 2072 of 2393
throw all the pseudo-science gobbledegook at me that you like ...... in my UNSCIENTIFIC opinion, the odds of FOGL finding anything truly commercial remain no better than 5/1 ..... if there is a momentum trade to be had, then there's a good chance i'll hop in (and out!) ..... if i miss the boat and something commercial is indeed found, then there'll still be plenty of time and money to be made
Shortie
- 24 Sep 2012 13:46
- 2073 of 2393
So its not 16.6% but 23% then. Still doesn't really matter as I wouldn't call this a high rate for success.
If you however you think this is a really good rate and you can't lose then be a good chappy and remortgage your house so you can invest in FOGL...
Proselenes
- 24 Sep 2012 15:07
- 2074 of 2393
Shortie, I am fully invested in FOGL, long all the way, thats clear from a long time ago when I was buying in the 40's and 50's.
Here for the whole hog, no selling, lets get that drill bit spinning and see what Scotia holds.
required field
- 24 Sep 2012 15:22
- 2075 of 2393
Proselenes...with all due respect : I thought you had sold out....then you must have bought back in heavily....
Proselenes
- 24 Sep 2012 15:30
- 2076 of 2393
RF, I did not sell out.
Proselenes
- 24 Sep 2012 15:31
- 2077 of 2393
Whats the downside if Scotia is a duster ?
Common question.
By my estimates FOGL will now end the 2012 drilling campaign with cash of 220 million US$ (circa 43p a share cash)
In 2013 circa 33 million will be spent on the 3D surveys and admin, this means FOGL enter the 2014 drilling campaign with 187 million US$.
Of course they might have a lot more than that if Noble farm into Loligo/Garrodia/Nimrod in 2013, however, for now, lets pretend they will not.
187 million US$ going into 2014 - so the downside will be circa 58.5 US cents per share or 35.5 pence per share.
This will mean for 2013 they will be "below cash" for a period of time, until 3D costs and admin catch up to bring cash down as they enter 2014 and drilling is back in the near term horizon again.
So, from today, a Scotia duster will see the share price down 50%. A strike at Scotia and you should be looking at 800% rise given the complex which houses Scotia.
Thats the short term potential for the share price imo.
Shortie
- 24 Sep 2012 15:45
- 2078 of 2393
I'm invested too, holding long futures but only a small part of my portfolio. I've already made a fair profit and expect to exit before the result on my remaining futures.
Shortie
- 24 Sep 2012 15:50
- 2079 of 2393
I'd agree 50% downside risk on a duster. Can you post your calculations for a strike that would give us an 800% increase? I'm curious how you get to this figure and what if any premium you've used.
Proselenes
- 24 Sep 2012 16:26
- 2080 of 2393
Anyone got a link to the Jefferies note on FOGL ? If so please advise or send me a mail.
CortezTheKiller
- 24 Sep 2012 23:44
- 2081 of 2393
I consider myself very lucky Loligo wasn't a duster and probably won't be staying in until Scotia