Proselenes
- 13 Aug 2011 04:53
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cynic
- 24 Sep 2012 13:33
- 2072 of 2393
throw all the pseudo-science gobbledegook at me that you like ...... in my UNSCIENTIFIC opinion, the odds of FOGL finding anything truly commercial remain no better than 5/1 ..... if there is a momentum trade to be had, then there's a good chance i'll hop in (and out!) ..... if i miss the boat and something commercial is indeed found, then there'll still be plenty of time and money to be made
Shortie
- 24 Sep 2012 13:46
- 2073 of 2393
So its not 16.6% but 23% then. Still doesn't really matter as I wouldn't call this a high rate for success.
If you however you think this is a really good rate and you can't lose then be a good chappy and remortgage your house so you can invest in FOGL...
Proselenes
- 24 Sep 2012 15:07
- 2074 of 2393
Shortie, I am fully invested in FOGL, long all the way, thats clear from a long time ago when I was buying in the 40's and 50's.
Here for the whole hog, no selling, lets get that drill bit spinning and see what Scotia holds.
required field
- 24 Sep 2012 15:22
- 2075 of 2393
Proselenes...with all due respect : I thought you had sold out....then you must have bought back in heavily....
Proselenes
- 24 Sep 2012 15:30
- 2076 of 2393
RF, I did not sell out.
Proselenes
- 24 Sep 2012 15:31
- 2077 of 2393
Whats the downside if Scotia is a duster ?
Common question.
By my estimates FOGL will now end the 2012 drilling campaign with cash of 220 million US$ (circa 43p a share cash)
In 2013 circa 33 million will be spent on the 3D surveys and admin, this means FOGL enter the 2014 drilling campaign with 187 million US$.
Of course they might have a lot more than that if Noble farm into Loligo/Garrodia/Nimrod in 2013, however, for now, lets pretend they will not.
187 million US$ going into 2014 - so the downside will be circa 58.5 US cents per share or 35.5 pence per share.
This will mean for 2013 they will be "below cash" for a period of time, until 3D costs and admin catch up to bring cash down as they enter 2014 and drilling is back in the near term horizon again.
So, from today, a Scotia duster will see the share price down 50%. A strike at Scotia and you should be looking at 800% rise given the complex which houses Scotia.
Thats the short term potential for the share price imo.
Shortie
- 24 Sep 2012 15:45
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I'm invested too, holding long futures but only a small part of my portfolio. I've already made a fair profit and expect to exit before the result on my remaining futures.
Shortie
- 24 Sep 2012 15:50
- 2079 of 2393
I'd agree 50% downside risk on a duster. Can you post your calculations for a strike that would give us an 800% increase? I'm curious how you get to this figure and what if any premium you've used.
Proselenes
- 24 Sep 2012 16:26
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Anyone got a link to the Jefferies note on FOGL ? If so please advise or send me a mail.
CortezTheKiller
- 24 Sep 2012 23:44
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I consider myself very lucky Loligo wasn't a duster and probably won't be staying in until Scotia
CortezTheKiller
- 24 Sep 2012 23:56
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A quote that I have a question. Don't worry I'm not saying picky
"GAS BASIS - this is a VERY POSSIBLE outcome to the well on success.
T1 = Circa 9 TCF recoverable - P50
T1 Deep = Circa 3.8 TCF recoverable - P50
Trigg and Trigg Deep is circa 5.8 TCF recoverable - P50
Three Bears = Circa 9.5 TCF recoverable - P50
Based on Cove's (COV) sale and therefore using a 513 millions US$ per TCF recoverable and taking 75% of that for FOGL's share and 320 million shares in issue.
T1 = 9*75%*513mUS$/1.55/320m = £6.98 per FOGL share value if P50 size gas
T1 Deep = 3.8*75%*513mUS$/1.55/320m = £2.94 per FOGL share value if P50 size gas
Triggs = 5.8*75%*513mUS$/1.55/320m = £4.49 per FOGL share value if P50 size gas
3 Bears = 9.5*75%*513mUS$/1.55/320m = £7.36 per FOGL share value if P50 size gas
As FOGL already have a farm in partner and reservoirs are going to be, if there, large massive thick sandstones and simple to develop the price should be higher than Sea Lion's 4.7US$ per barrel, however, I will use that for now to be conservative.
If all targets are gas, based on COV price - potential £21.77 per share."
Proselenes.. I'm not saying you were wrong on the above, but could you please explain why the above didn't come through.
Thanks
Proselenes
- 25 Sep 2012 02:22
- 2083 of 2393
Cortez, its very simple, they have not as yet proved they have net pay. Once they appraise Loligo and prove the sweet spots and prove the reserve base then the share price will respond accordingly.
At this moment in time they have gas, it might be massive BUT as far as the market cares, its not proven to be net pay flowing gas and fluids - and so until such time as it is or is proven it will be, the share price will lag way behind.
That gives you a future value - the process is now about proving up that value with 3D work, sidewall cores and appraisal drill.
grannyboy
- 25 Sep 2012 07:21
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Scotia drill off and running!!.. Well on time too, was expecting to be nearer end of week..
Proselenes
- 25 Sep 2012 07:33
- 2085 of 2393
Spud RNS
I would suggest its going to be 65 to 70 days well operations. Loligo they said 60 days well operations and were done in 52 days (8 day saving).
Yesterday was 1 day for arrival and set up
Drilling time to TD at Scotia should be in the 45 day to 55 day range.
10 days for clean up and testing
10 to 14 days for P&A operation
1 day for pack up and go.
Expect rumours of gas or condensate or oil or duster to start coming from week commencing Monday 19th of November - that is when they will be through the target and approaching TD, if not already at TD.
Mark it in your calenders now ! Big red "Scotia Result Near" circle around the 19th of November.
HARRYCAT
- 25 Sep 2012 08:15
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Scotia - FI 31/12-01 Well Spud
"FOGL is pleased to announce that the Scotia exploration well FI 31/12-01 was spudded on 25 September 2012.
The well is located 315 km east - northeast of Stanley, Falkland Islands and 114 km from the Loligo prospect.
FOGL is the operator of the well, holding a 75% interest, together with its partner Edison International Spa, which holds the remaining 25% interest. Under a farmout agreement announced on 6 August 2012, Noble Energy Inc. will also participate in this well for a 35% interest, thereby reducing FOGL's interest to 40%. The farmout agreement has been approved by the Falkland Islands Government and the changes to the licences will be formally executed in the near future. Scotia is the second of FOGL's two well exploration programme using the Leiv Eriksson semi submersible drilling rig.
The well is designed to test the Scotia prospect within the mid Cretaceous fan play. It is anticipated that the well operations will be around 75 days with a total depth of approximately 5,000 metres."
cynic
- 25 Sep 2012 08:17
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and the market remains disinterested, at least for now
greekman
- 25 Sep 2012 09:22
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No suprise that the market is disinterested, as the drill was already in the price!
Shortie
- 25 Sep 2012 09:29
- 2090 of 2393
"If all targets are gas, based on COV price - potential £21.77 per share."
513 millions US$ per TCF recoverable I think is rather optimistic. Even if the resource base which is unknown at present does contain the amounts of gas COV suggest you still have to consider the flow rate and then the cost of production. No abnormal pressure was recorded during the drill which suggests to me that flow rates are low. Of course even if the resource base is proved if it takes 30 years to extract the resource costs of production will be far higher than a well under good pressure and a shorter life.
cynic
- 25 Sep 2012 09:35
- 2091 of 2393
greek - i.e. at the bottom end of the recent trading range!