Proselenes
- 13 Aug 2011 04:53
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Gerponville18
- 11 Oct 2012 17:08
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Proselenes:
The presentation and the question and answer time was good and encouraging by NOBLE, FOGL BOD’s have chosen well IMO.
I am trying to take a calm view on the Falklands; boy wouldn’t be fantastic IF there is the wonderful black stuff within the Scotia field? But, we need to concentrate on that horrible word.........IF!
Anyway, we will have countless opportunities with FOGL/Borders and Southern/DES/Rockhopper for many years to come…..All IMO.
cynic
- 11 Oct 2012 17:43
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if my quick scan was correct, you have at least another year in which to consider and contemplate your navel ..... in market terms, 12 months is an awfully long way away with seemingly little or no news in the interim
Balerboy
- 11 Oct 2012 20:15
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mean while rf and co are locked in with an sp drifting down to 50p
Gerponville18
- 11 Oct 2012 21:28
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If as you state, the share price will drift down to 50p, no problems........Just buy more, hence more profits for the "Piggy Bank", and that’s without an oil find.......Yet!
Proselenes
- 12 Oct 2012 06:26
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Quick summary of the Q&A session that someone has done.
1) The first question on the topic was concerning why Scotia is viewed as an oil opportunity, rather than gas.
According to Noble, the gas discovery (Loligo) was in a younger section, whereas Scotia is in a deeper zone. Also, the seismic attributes are indicative. They had expected Loligo to be gas, but very different with Scotia.
2) Another question on seismic.
Will be shooting 3D at end of this year. Noble would prefer to explore after 3D, but was not possible in this case. 2D adds more risk, so really important to get the 3D. If fortunate, and initial well successful, great, but get a better picture with the 3D. Good thing is that Scotia will give some real data, and will set up for a multi-well exploration programme in 2014. Kind of like Noble did it in west Africa.
4) Question on Loligo.
Noble looking for oil, not gas, which was one of the reasons why they did not participate in the first well (which they felt would be gas)
5) Question on NFB, and rig market
Not going into the North Falkland basin. South large enough to keep them busy for a long time. Regarding the Loligo well, they do not have the well results. From own interpretation, they feel there is some encouragement regarding their hopes that Scotia will be an oil well. But they know no more than what is in FOGL's press release.Regarding 2014 programme, they are looking to see what rig might be available--c.20 rigs would fit in that environment, and just canvassing the market at the moment. Still early in the process.
6) Appraisal drilling question
Appraisal would be an appraisal of a Scotia success. If not successful, would start exploration after 3D. Length of drilling programme depends on success.
7) If thin sands came on Scotia, but oil shows, would this be OK?
Anything that indicates oil would be "very interesting". Quite broad possibilities as to what they'll find. 3D will tell them more. But "finding oil would be very encouraging"
grannyboy
- 12 Oct 2012 07:45
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Yes we're all waiting with baited breath in anticipation of a successful oil find!!..lol
cynic
- 12 Oct 2012 07:59
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baited breath rather implies a bad case of halitosis .... try "bated" :-))
blackdown
- 12 Oct 2012 08:04
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Q&A Session
Why does Miss P copy and paste the same old stuff time after time?
Because she doesn't have anything better to do.
Why did Miss P create grannygirl to 'speak' to those she has squelched?
No idea and who cares anyway.
Proselenes
- 12 Oct 2012 08:06
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Yesterdays rise was probably a dose of panic by shorters...... they had been increasing their short positions as per below chart and Nobles positive vibes must have kicked them where it hurt and they had to close off quickly some of their positions.
:) LOL
Stock on loan chart below - which will capture a lot of the shorting of FOGL.
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cynic
- 12 Oct 2012 08:08
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question #1 - why would the average joe want to hang on to fogl (and others) if there is not going to be any meaningful news for another year?
question #2 - how many shares are there in issue for fogl, for if only 3m on loan, that would look to be a piffling %?
Proselenes
- 12 Oct 2012 08:22
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cynic, why are you holding GKP now ? No major news coming for years, only possible bad news with Israel air strike on Iran early next year.
Also, the stock on loan is more relative to the normal daily trading volume in the shorter term - not the total shares in issue.
If a stock has turnover of 500K shares per day, but there is 3m stock on loan, it represents 6 days volume.
If a stock has turnover of 500m shares per day, but there is 500m stock on loan, it represents only 1 day volume.
Proselenes
- 12 Oct 2012 08:27
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I guess from Noble's statement of "we will appraise from late 2013 if Scotia has oil" means that the new drill ship they are taking for 3 years could well be redirected to the Falklands if Scotia strikes oil, if not it goes East Med ? Certainly an option for them now, and for sure if Scotia strikes oil then it becomes top priority for Noble owing to the massive upside potential.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/noble-energy-announces-agreement-build-115400586.html
HOUSTON, Sept. 27, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Noble Energy, Inc. (NBL) today announced that it has entered into a 36 month contract with a subsidiary of Atwood Oceanics Inc. (ATW) for a new build drillship to support its global new ventures efforts in deepwater exploration and development. The agreement demonstrates the Company's commitment to global offshore exploration.
The drillship Atwood Advantage is currently under construction by Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering Co., Ltd. in South Korea. Delivery is anticipated in the fourth quarter of 2013 when the rate of $584,000 per day will be initiated. The dual BOP stacks, enhanced offline capabilities, 12,000 feet water depth/40,000 feet drill depth ratings and the increased mobility will add flexibility to Noble Energy's global exploration program. ................
cynic
- 12 Oct 2012 08:32
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GKP
(a) because i have already held them for some time but am not adding further after my last little foray at about 201
(b) because my running loss there is small, so no harm being done
(c) because GKP represents only a small % of my portfolio
(d) because GKP has already found oil, and seemingly an awful lot of it too
(e) because the political situation in iraq looks to be settling down, which can only be good news for the whole region
that seems to be a few good reasons to me
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fogl shorting
you fail dismally to answer the question i raised
try again - yours is like the typical schoolboy exam error of answering the question he would have liked to have been asked, rather than what actuallywas.
Proselenes
- 12 Oct 2012 08:38
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The 3 year contract for the Atwood Advantage drillship just announced end Sept, and then yesterdays plans showing non-stop appraisal and exploratory drilling for 3 years in the Falklands, if Scotia strikes oil.... sort of ties in does it not......
cynic
- 12 Oct 2012 08:59
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while i accept that seismic and similar are excellent tools, they assuredly do not guarantee the result sought - as is shown all too often
i may have missed something (would not surprise me), but even you seem to be saying that nothing meaningful is expected for another year - hence my own comment and indeed the market's reaction, for the share languishes in the sargasso sea (oh all right - the doldrums then) at +/-68
grevis2
- 13 Oct 2012 13:48
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Seems Noble are convinced there is oil to be had. The following is an extract from Friday's Telegraph:
"..explorers around the Falklands were having a good day, spurred higher by Noble Energy which said there may be 12 billion barrels of oil equivalent in the area".
I don't know on what they have based this prediction but it could indicate encouraging shows with current drilling.
Proselenes
- 13 Oct 2012 17:42
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grevis, 12 billion is only in the top few leads...... there are over 20 other leads, including the massive "Diomedea" prospect which by itself is over 5 billion recoverable barrels potential.
grannyboy
- 13 Oct 2012 18:48
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Imagine if they do find oil at Scotia! and how much it'l de-risk a large area and the Diomedea location..And with over 20 leads it could be seriously mega.. But of course you'd be talking a few years down the line for all the prospects to be evaluated..
required field
- 16 Oct 2012 10:42
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Rumours might start to flow here soon, as I presume drilling is on going and we are getting closer and closer to perhaps first signs of hydrocarbons....