hlyeo98
- 04 Aug 2010 11:22
This is a BUY tip from Tom Winnifrith...
Sorry if this is rather boring as the market cap is now c 350 million but at 470p Avanti Communications (AVN) - a stock held in the SF t1ps Growth Fund - is really very cheap whichever way you look at it. It is now funded to launch 3 satellites into space ( and fully insured if the worst happens which will only delay the programme by 6 months anyway). You value Avanti by discounting back the net cashflows these satellites will generate. That depends on how much capacity is sold and at what price. Use a model based on very conservative assumptions and this stock is worth 13 ( the lowest valuation in the market). But that model uses assumptions about sales prices which are already being beaten by forward sales Avanti is booking today. Use those prices and you head up to the 22.50 value of house broker Cenkos. My own view is that Avanti will do better still and this stock could therefore be worth 25. Exc itement will mount as the first satellite is launched later this year. Remember those valuations are the Net Present Value of future cashflows ( i.e. what they are worth today). If you can buy at under 600p ( as you can now) you should do so and sit back and wait. I suspect after HYLAS 1 is launched you will never again be able to buy at less than 600p.
steve52
- 24 Feb 2011 16:27
- 263 of 382
Has HYLAS 1 been turned off? bought @ 570 on the way up, thinking i was on to a winner.
cynic
- 24 Feb 2011 16:34
- 264 of 382
don't know .... stupidly i also did not obey the discipline of selling when it started misbehaving badly ..... hmm; do so tomorrow, even if it hurts nastily?
halifax
- 24 Feb 2011 16:44
- 265 of 382
AVN has been recommended and tipped by many recently surely an indication of the sp direction.
cynic
- 24 Feb 2011 16:58
- 266 of 382
i.e. a case of "when my broker says buy, he means sell"?
tabasco
- 24 Feb 2011 17:03
- 267 of 382
I got half out this morning but have still taken a nasty hitif it opens higher tomorrow I will bite the bulletdont need to take a chance against the EK powerhe never losesand thats good enough for meDil you were rightand I had a gut feeling you would be
Its good this shorting game inithow to fcuk a good company in the blink of an eye.
tabasco
- 24 Feb 2011 17:43
- 268 of 382
Is this your mate Dil....
The Count - 24 Feb'11 - 16:54 - 3549 of 3560
--->ALL
I have tried holding on to all my shares for the long term as I was convinced of the long term investment potential here. I have not been able to keep up with all the posts of late, but given the recent disproportionate falls I decided to try to catch up and have read the last 100 posts or so.
From that I need to ask those of you that keep up with this story on a daily basis for some help.
It seems clear from the posts I have read that it is being claimed that a hedge fund is shorting shares and that a certain shorting fat twat (who has long needed a good glassing and a blade stuck deep in him to soak his gargantuan gut in loads of free flowing claret) has also been passing on false info posing as 'research' on the company that his mouthpiece at T1ps has seen fit to counter.
Has any of this been posted publicly and if so, can someone please direct me to the relevant posts?
I also think it is disgraceful (if indeed it is a true response) for the CEO of AVN to be gloating at how such market manipulations have helped him buy loads of shares at a false price, He should be thinking instead of the many long suffering shareholders who do not have the level of info at their possession that he has to make buying (or selling) decisions and who have instead, been seriously burned by such actions. The guy comes across as a bit of a tool in this case I'm sorry to say.
Regards,
THE COUNT!
Dailos
- 24 Feb 2011 18:05
- 269 of 382
Dils "rules are rules" statement should be applauded.
Whether its for a reduced profit, or for a loss, a stop is a stop is a stop!
I've traded these quite a few times, i wouldn't "invest" until they are profit making though.
Only way to go from here is to follow the trend.. and remember, dont just buy and sell maybe consider add or reduce or reverse to your long or short position!!!
d.
tabasco
- 24 Feb 2011 18:34
- 270 of 382
David Williams probably had no choice but to buy shares and tell Cawkwell to go fcuk himselfand of course if he fcuked himself with his two inch dickthat would be another successful short for fattyreading the Counts posthe speaks my language albeit a little more articulatelolhis post has persuaded me to hold onto the rest of minemaybe it is drink talking but if everyone made a stand things would be a little differentdidnt fatty get turned over trying to force down Sportingbet a good few years ago I read ASOS is also on his hit listannoying as it may be until we learn that backing losers should not make anyone a profitthis will never stopso in some ways I say let him keep fcuking up good companiesit might register one day to those that can do something about it rant over fill up the glass
kimoldfield
- 24 Feb 2011 20:19
- 271 of 382
For once I am in agreement with SC/EK. The potential being touted by certain 'advisers' just does not add up I'm afraid. They have been quoting millions of customers for Avanti but it would seem that the customers are not Avanti's but those of the companies who have just paid a relatively small amount for the company's capabilities. I could be wrong, I hope so for the sake of those still invested, but I cannot see a lot of value in the shares at present.
tabasco
- 25 Feb 2011 10:34
- 272 of 382
I do hope this problem has been designed to pull the cork from the well...and leave him empty...wishful thinking...
tabasco
- 25 Feb 2011 13:51
- 273 of 382
They are giving EK a serious fight...
RNS Number : 8936B
Avanti Communications Group Plc
25 February 2011
Avanti Communications Group plc
("the Company")
Directors Shareholdings
Avanti Communications Group plc (AIM: AVN), the broadband satellite operator, was today notified by David Bestwick, Director, that he had purchased 30,000 ordinary shares in the Company at a price of 504 pence per ordinary share. David Bestwick now holds a total direct and indirect voting right interest in 1,201,648 ordinary shares in the Company, being approximately 1.5% of the issued ordinary share capital of the Company. Mr Bestwick has a further revocable and indirect interest in 430,202 shares under the Company's Long Term Incentive Plan which are subject to certain criteria.
The Company was also notified today by David Williams, Chief Executive, that he had purchased 20,000 ordinary shares in the Company at a price of 504 pence per ordinary share. David Williams now holds a total direct and indirect voting right interest in 1,525,072 ordinary shares in the Company, being approximately 1.9% of the issued ordinary share capital of the Company. Mr Williams has a further revocable and indirect interest in 522,233 ordinary shares under the Company's Long Term Incentive Plan which are subject to certain criteria
tabasco
- 28 Feb 2011 08:00
- 274 of 382
More directors buying I make that over ml last week thats a serious amount of confidence with there own cashcould prove to be very good value at these levelI sold half my holdingcould buy back today without a lose..hmmmm?
RNS Number : 9467B
Avanti Communications Group Plc
28 February 2011
Avanti Communications Group plc
("the Company")
Directors Shareholdings
Avanti Communications Group plc (AIM: AVN), the broadband satellite operator, was notified on Friday 25(th) February by Alan Foster, Director, that he had purchased on that day 10,610 ordinary shares in the Company at a price of 500 pence per ordinary share. Alan Foster now holds a total direct and indirect voting right interest in 370,249 ordinary shares in the Company, being approximately 0.46% of the issued ordinary share capital of the Company.
---ENDS---
tabasco
- 28 Feb 2011 09:24
- 275 of 382
Follow EK and you dont always have it off!
Simon Cawkwell - 25 Feb'11 - 16:15 - 3678 of 3779
Gentlemen,
I am sorry not to have submitted copy today but I am in the West Indies for a short break and about to go out to lunch. My view of AVN has not changed.
Simon Cawkwell - 07966 426 795
PS: I forgot to add that I have bet 20,000 at 11/10 on Newcastle in tomorrow'a match. Those who have lost on AVN (and will lose more if still invested) are advised to do the same.
kimoldfield
- 28 Feb 2011 09:29
- 276 of 382
Aw, shame! :o)
Dil
- 28 Feb 2011 09:40
- 277 of 382
Have spoken to The Count on a couple of occassions tabby , probably at least five years ago being the last time ... he rang to tell me how wrong I was about MDX. We agreed to differ and that was that , nice guy.
Can't understand why avn still haven't announced a move to the main market.
tabasco
- 02 Mar 2011 08:47
- 278 of 382
What a guy!
Simon Cawkwell - 2 Mar'11 - 08:11 - 3959 of 3965
Hello everybody,
I just got back from Barbados half an hour ago only to see that another director seeks to do his dough. Gluttons for punishment, the lot of them.
It is true that whilst away I sploshed 60,000 on footie BUT I made more than that shorting AVN.
So it's not all bad.
Simon Cawkwell
cynic
- 02 Mar 2011 08:52
- 279 of 382
and i'm very glad that i swallowed a very bitter pill this morning
tabasco
- 02 Mar 2011 09:01
- 280 of 382
Not many take him on and winbut it would take just one carefully planned operation to skin him!
Hopefully those parties can get together.
tabasco
- 02 Mar 2011 09:44
- 281 of 382
Simon Cawkwell - 2 Mar'11 - 09:13 - 3968 of 3972
One Giant Leap (of Faith Required)
Our (i.e. Investec dated 24th February 2011) view
With one satellite in the sky, no active commercial service (pre-revenue), much
bigger competitors attacking the same markets (and more competition to
come), we are not convinced Avanti is yet deserving of its 0.5bn market cap.
Management's decision not to answer our key questions and concerns on the
investment case does not inspire confidence. A 15-year leap of faith is
required to create a value story here. We model peer-level mature profitability,
and risk to its achievement, to derive a DCF-based 488p TP. SELL.
Key points
The current share price reflects a belief by the market in the full achievement of
peer-beating profits and cash flows. The market expects sales to reach full
capacity within 3 years on HYLAS 1, and 5 years for HYLAS 2 & 3 post launch.
Execution to this plan is now crucial to merely justify the current valuation.
n Any potential value story for Avanti, however, remains one of long-term
performance, and here we have some concerns. At the interims announcement
we moved our recommendation from Sell to Under Review to reflect an apparent
strength in the headline order book and pipeline of business, and in order to
pursue answers to several material questions with management which might help
us revisit the investment case.
n With a major "option" in the order book and few recent contract announcements
the future may not be as rosy as the market believes.
n Avanti's decision not to answer our questions doesn't help. We highlight our
questions herein, and with the risks and uncertainties still lingering we reinstate
our Sell recommendation and our new DCF-based 488p price target.
24 February 2011
Avanti Communications
Mobile Telecommunications
Analyst(s) Morten Singleton
+44 (0) 20 7597 4254
morten.singleton@investec.co.uk
James Goodman
+44 (0) 20 7597 4529
james.goodman@investec.co.uk
Sell (No Change) 597p
Target Price (Prev. 533p) 488p
Forecast Total Return (18.2)%
Impact on estimates
0.0
-50.0
-100.0
-150.0
-200.0
-250.0
2011 2012 2013
Change in EPS (norm, cont) - FD (%)
EPS (norm, cont) - FD (p) 2011E 2012E 2013E
Old (9.3) (13.5) (3.2)
New (15.6) (35.9) (10.3)
Source: Investec Securities estimates
Market Cap 507m
Enterprise value 602m
Average daily volume (000s) 318
Index FTSE AIM
RIC / Bloomberg AVN.L / AVN LN
Share price performance
Feb-10 May-10 Aug-10 Nov-10 Feb-11
800
700
600
500
400
300
1m 3m 12m
Price (6.80) (9.62) 24.27
Rel. FTSE All
Share
(7.14) (14.71) 7.37
Source: FactSet
Readers in all geographies please refer to important disclosures and disclaimers starting on page 19
In the United Kingdom this document is a MARKETING COMMUNICATION. It has not been prepared in
accordance with the rules in the FSA Conduct of Business Sourcebook designed to promote the independence of
research and is also not subject to any prohibition on dealing ahead of the dissemination of research.
Questions for investors to ask management
In the course of our research into the investment case for Avanti we posed
several questions to management which we believe are crucial to valuing the
company. Avanti management has declined to answer these questions.
We would prefer to be in a position of possessing all the material facts, but we
are not, and we believe there are many risks and uncertainties regarding this
investment that deserve closer attention. We are not dismissive of the
potential value story that Avanti could represent, if all goes to plan but many
others have posited this story and we believe the risks have not achieved a
suitable airing. We are therefore publishing this note to highlight the
questions we think investors should ask when considering any current, or
future, holding.
Exactly what is Avantis definition of backlog?
At the recent interims, Avanti moved from a publication of the proportion of next 12
months of capacity sold on its satellites, to a reflection of the contract order book, or
backlog. We were surprised at the scale of the backlog in the interims and thus
undertook a full and detailed analysis of all the contract announcements made by
Avanti since April 2007. This is illustrated in Table 1.
It is difficult to simply add up the backlog due to a number of factors: the lack of
complete information; the fact that several contracts span both HYLAS 1 and 2;
many contracts span several years, some of which are coming to the end of their
original contract length (with no sign yet of renewal); and the fact that some of these
contracts relate to projects, rather than satellite capacity.
Is not almost half the contract backlog merely an option?
It is notable, however, that the largest item in the backlog to date - a 113.4m threeyear
deal with a Western European Government for the 900MHz steerable beam on
HYLAS 2 - constitutes nearly half this backlog, and yet is no more than a Call option.
This is not therefore an irrevocable commitment to take up Avantis service. We do
not believe this should be presented as part of the backlog, but rather it should be
mentioned as a potential additional element, conditional upon the customer taking
up the option. Are there any other options in the contract backlog, and if so, how
much?
What happened to the pre-sold capacity metric?
It is also unclear exactly what progress has been made on sales more recently. We
understand that Avanti had effectively pre-sold 25% of its HYLAS 1 capacity since
the start of last summer (we assume this metric is measured by Avanti on a 12-
month prospective basis, rather than for the satellite life). Where is this metric now?
We suspect it may not have budged much, if at all. The initial flurry of contract
announcements immediately post the HYLAS 1 launch looks to us more like
confirmations of previously uncommitted pre-sold capacity rather than any new
deals.
24 February 2011
Gentlemen,
I stress that all the above is written and issued by Investec. Please also note that the 488p target price has been achieved (this morning). I have not yet received a TP update. However, I am not buying to close since momentum is now with the bears. Besides, I think the economic outlook for AVN is not good.
Simon Cawkwell
tabasco
- 03 Mar 2011 18:15
- 282 of 382
"Yesterday was also a fun day for Avanti Communications AVN). Evil Knievil went publicly short posting comments on ADVFN (I refused to run them on t1ps as they contained just too many factual errors). What I had not realised was that his calculations, such as they were, had a decimal point in the wrong place. His informant was clearly illiterate (the note EK posted was strewn with errors) and also (see below) technically clueless. I had not realised at the time that he was innumerate as well. An interesting combination for someone purporting to be an investment analyst. What with also confusing MegaHertz and MegaBits the sums were not to put too fine a point on it all wrong. But once the old boy has an idea in his head there is no stopping him so off he went. Call me cynical but there was only one way to react we bought a stack more Avanti for the SF t1ps Growth Fund.
Now some CEOs huff and puff and threaten lawyers when Evil goes off shorting and publishes factually incorrect material in support of his claims. But David Williams of Avanti has more style than that. A Welshie with style and flair, whatever next. Williams responded by buying 100,000 of Avanti shares in the market (his chairman also bought 50,000) which is a material sum for him. But as a coup de grace he asked me to pass on a note to Evil:
Dear Tom
Please extend an invitation to lunch in Shoreditch on my behalf to Mr Cawkwell. His informant, whom I presume is not an astrophysicist, got his decimal point in the wrong place and as a result I was able to buy 100,000 of shares at the wrong price so it seems polite to thank him.
David
That is pretty cool as you would expect from a CEO based in Rivington Street (Avantis offices are in the street after which RSH is named). A few more shorts on the basis of maths with decimal points in the wrong place plus a stream of factual errors and Evil will start to need free food if he is not to waste away.
On a wider level, when a CEO invests 1000 or even 5,000 in buying shares in his company I regard that as window dressing. But when he or she writes out a cheque which is a very material part of his annual salary that can ONLY mean he ( or she) thinks the shares have real value. The Rivington Street CEOs have made their intentions clear."
http://sharecrazy.com/beta/daily/4885/rivington-street-avanti-communications-odd-day