oddie
- 10 Jan 2006 09:45
Stockdog,
What do you think of the latest results??
I thought they were ok. Quite positive outlook from the Company!!
The retail sector seems to be improving. Like-for-like sales figures still down from '04 but then again that was going to be very difficult as 2004 was an exceptional year!
One point is that as long as nothing nasty happens in the High street, the next set of results can only look positive compared with 2005...!
The Gross margin is improving which is important + store openings are going ahead as planned so maybe 2006 will be a great year for Topps Tiles!
.....and as was hinted in the press, Topps Tiles might well become a Takeover Target within 12 months.
If that's the case, what's a reasonable Takeout price in your opinion?? 3-3.50?
Thanks for replying.
Oddie
2517GEORGE
- 30 May 2008 09:12
- 27 of 182
Hi driver------yes I am, in fact today I purchase more through my monthly sharebuilder account with halifax, this will be the 7th month running I have bought them @ prices from 195p down to whatever today (falling knives spring to mind), I prefer (pound cost average). Retail is dismal atm and will be for some time to come, but nothing lasts for ever and when it turns I hopefully will reap the benefits. They do look cheap and decent divi still, but other than slowly climbing back to 85p-90p I don't see much improvement.
2517
2517GEORGE
- 30 May 2008 11:42
- 28 of 182
Several directors thought TPT were cheap, picking up around 5m shares between them @ 75p each.
2517
hangon
- 10 Jun 2008 10:31
- 29 of 182
Directors havve "probably" done the right thing, although I expect sp to fall further... as Retail woes abound.
- I think averaging down is a bad policy - far better to hold and watch, pouncing at a Low! ( that's if you can't bear crystalising a Loss, better to Sell part-way down, say at 1 when the writing was on the wall)....by share-building as you reported, you are creating a large holding that's increasingly overpriced. It will be years before your (average sp) is covered, since any sales are treated as those last purchased (Tax Rules)....so you pay the greatest Capital Gain. ( keep below the allowance!).
The advantage of sharebuilding is illusion - it suits Halifax because they can lend out your stock for greater profit. ( but check this aspect)...also you are paying more commission, I'll bet.
Topps is a well-operated business IMHO and I used to be a holder at abt. 3 some years ago. There seems to be a branch in every major town. However, as credit crunch affects folk, new tiles are not top of their list. Better to buy children their toys, then tv, computers and family cars - after that it's Tiles and Holidays, I guess.
miner49er
- 10 Jun 2008 12:31
- 30 of 182
I think this has got another 15-20p to fall...
scotinvestor
- 10 Jun 2008 12:53
- 31 of 182
its always hard to know when to buy at very bottom on exact day......and that means sitting watching a screen every day
queen1
- 10 Jun 2008 13:22
- 32 of 182
I agree hangon that tiles will not be at the top of people's buying lists. However, I think the house sales slowdown may actually work in their favour. If people cannot afford to move they will be more inclined to improve where they currently live which is where I think TPT will benefit.
2517GEORGE
- 10 Jun 2008 16:08
- 33 of 182
hangon----Good comments, if I like a co I will average down and obviously I am sat on a large loss atm, if I new where the low was (going to be) of course I would use your 'pouncing at a low' strategy, unfortunately as scotinvestor points out that is not so easy to do. Last 9 months have been commission free, but charges return next month. I also have been in and out of TPT over several years so agree they are a good co.
queen1, there's some merit in what you say re 'inclined to improve'.
Good luck all.
2517
halifax
- 10 Jun 2008 16:19
- 34 of 182
TPT's demise is self inflicted they withdrew capital from the company by borrowing what a huge mistake the FD must feel really good although shareholders did cash in at that time so shouldnt be too upset just now.
hlyeo98
- 10 Jun 2008 16:29
- 35 of 182
hangon
- 12 Jun 2008 21:41
- 36 of 182
queen1 - in general you are right, but I would counter that by suggesting folk do volume tiling when adding extensions - and these were popular when folk could borrow against the home ( second Mortgages, used for holidays and extensions).
-if this is correct and represented the bulk of Tops sales, then the current situation is far different.....with second mortgages the stuff of dreams and so on.
Sadly I think folk won't be buying tiles in bulk, ( gloss-paint maybe), but tiles have an amazing life, being so hard-wearing. Perhaps Topps needs to diversify, offering a wider range of refurbishment products, albeit in a smaller depth. Difficult to do in hard times, but better than doing nowt.
Look at the growth of Screwfix, to see a winning formula!
Let's hope I'm wrong, eh?
2517GEORGE
- 13 Jun 2008 18:51
- 37 of 182
hangon-------- re screwfix, KGF own them and whilst screwfix themselves may be doing well (I have no idea), they aren't helping the KGF sp much.
2517
queen1
- 14 Jun 2008 18:13
- 38 of 182
Fair points hangon. I've been in TPT twice in the past, both forays having been very profitable, and am considering a third go. Just trying to judge the bottom!
queen1
- 20 Jun 2008 22:40
- 39 of 182
Well no doubt I'll have judged it wrong but I'm back in TPT. Let's hope they'll be profitable for me a third time!
hangon
- 07 Jul 2008 17:23
- 40 of 182
Currently c.40p so the Directors were wrong! 75p- Ouch!
But no doubt they get some Options, or maybe 1+1, so we should never feel too bad about it. Considering how shareholders have fayred, Dirs are still being over-paid....factor 2x, 3x maybe ( Pensioners receive 6k pa, for living, rent, food, fuel, and clothing -pathetic really).
"When is the Low" - I agreee it's difficult to find - since by the time you really feel "better", plenty of others have pushed-up the price.
But "now" is not the time - look at the Banks pathetic efforts to grab shareholders for another round of "prop-up" money, much of which will go to Directors for meeting Targets ( of raising money at any price!)...Oh dear.
( Wisper:- TPT "bottom" will be when it reaches 21p mid., )
Only IMHO - - me and my big mouth, sorry folks.
queen1
- 08 Jul 2008 13:21
- 41 of 182
I hope not hangon!
amardev
- 07 Aug 2008 17:19
- 42 of 182
Hi All .................
How come you've gone all quiet ................. since the sp started creeping up?
I really enjoyed your exchange of views.
Now watching, with a mind to buy in.
More thoughts welcome.
Cheers
Amar
2517GEORGE
- 07 Aug 2008 18:25
- 43 of 182
Sorry, I've been concentrating on my nose bleed, such dizzy heights for TPT. Seriously, I believe we will need to sit through the whole process of consumer weakness which may take anything up to 3 years to complete, and there are many nasty surprises instore (pun) for the average consumer. AIMO of course.
2517
queen1
- 08 Aug 2008 13:32
- 44 of 182
Shares Mag has been a long-time fan of TPT but even they are saying sell now. So, to my mind, with most saying sell, now is the time to buy! A little like the peak reached of 300p for TPT. At that time everyone was saying buy. With hindsight, the smart thing to have done would have been to have sold!
mitzy
- 28 Oct 2008 10:14
- 45 of 182
sell down to 15p this is ex growth.
gibby
- 28 Oct 2008 11:09
- 46 of 182
will this bounce?