moneyman
- 12 Mar 2003 20:00
At 12p this looks a great BUY.Remember after the deal with Suvair this shot to around 30p ! Next news I am sure will be the announcement of some major deals.Fill up at this level.
guru11
- 07 Nov 2005 21:12
- 270 of 334
I was in this some time ago. But hasn' t the share price fallen back now.
The question is how many actual orders did they get from the NHS?
My guess is not to many! From memory isn't the SP now around 1.25p.
Sharesure
- 08 Nov 2005 07:52
- 271 of 334
guru11, This stock is a potential basket case propped up by Triandra(Tchenquiz). But at the current 1p sp it is a speculation on whether you buy believing they have a lifeline from Triandra, or whether this time Tchenquiz has been sucked in to a loser. Not an easy call. As for the NHS I don't think they have won a single money making order, but then neither has any other firm in their business. That's more a reflection on a government which purports to be doing all it can to combat MRSA etc, but spends no money doing it, and not the efficacy of the products on offer from ETQ (or others).
GIDRUTH
- 28 Dec 2005 11:47
- 272 of 334
Is this the end ?
blinger
- 28 Dec 2005 12:07
- 273 of 334
yep.
superrod
- 28 Dec 2005 22:16
- 274 of 334
wasnt tony caplin associated with TAD?
follow the man, compound your loss
Beau62
- 29 Dec 2005 11:01
- 275 of 334
He was super....lol.
Maybe he can use his influence in the NHS to kick start some action. I continue to watch, while not holding.
Beau
blinger
- 29 Dec 2005 11:11
- 276 of 334
hope you aren`t sniggering though beau?
lol, ah well more losses against future capital gains when it goes down.I can add them to MOI,Albert Fisher,Atlantic Telecom,WMG,Yorks.Group, and a few more bought in the heady days of easy money, still minus 40k over nearly ten years isn`t too bad, and half of it has been useful so far against CGT.
Lets hope I need more losses against huge gains for the next decade, well maybe my sprogs can use it.
Beau62
- 29 Dec 2005 12:34
- 277 of 334
LOL blinger
I'd be lying if I didn't chuckle a little. I saw TC in action at an EGM last year.....but hey, he may hold some influence here so I'll keep watching with interest. Could do with some new blood to dig my teeth into.
Best of luck in 2006. I'd certainly drink to heavy gains...if I ever see 'em...LOL. (Certainly not in Tad...the biggest loser of the decade).
Beau
blinger
- 29 Dec 2005 14:56
- 278 of 334
Aye, the fat cats get fatter daily, some of the salaries are mind-boggling, back in the eighties we used to reckon that 3/4X the av. wage was pretty good director remuneration for the time,( and we were all 4 shareholders in a private co. too) now its more like 10X, and for what?
Guid New Year to you anyway
Deal hunter
- 30 Dec 2005 09:34
- 279 of 334
Just read Caplins notes to the Interim results, does he seriously believe that sourcing bits and pieces in China is going to bail Diffusion (=ETQ's only real trading arm) out. Sourcing from China will mean a significant rise in commitment to stock (= cash tied up) and, if it works in the very short term, the competition will follow suit, in fact, the Chinese suppliers will approach them , I know as I have experienced this problem. It seems that Caplin is unprepared (as was Thompson) to address the root cause of ETQ's problems, namely, the incompetant management that costs a great deal and delivers nothing but losses. Unless ETQ are prepared to realise that sourcing from China is absolutely no substitute for building a really competant Top Management structure and then recruiting the dynamic people to staff it then my advice is to put your money on the Favourite in the first race at Newmarket - losing your money will be rather less protracted but more enjoyable (if losing money is ever enjoyable). Certainly any gain will be on a significant multiplier to anything ETQ might bring. Happy and prosperous New Year to you all
Sharesure
- 05 Jan 2006 12:14
- 280 of 334
With everyone running for the door maybe this is worth a look at, even though it is high risk. Maybe the stake that the Tchenquiz brothers have acts as some form of insurance policy against a 'complete lights out'; so the main risk may be further dilution. The businesses ETQ plans to retain probably do have value and potential in the medium term. Interested in other's views on this. I am under no illusions that this is a high risk stock.
superrod
- 05 Jan 2006 19:20
- 281 of 334
Sharesure
"I am under no illusions that this is a high risk stock".
make sure you remember that and let the others do the running for you.
blinger
- 05 Jan 2006 20:07
- 282 of 334
LOLOLOL!!!!!!!
Global Nomad
- 08 Jan 2006 00:36
- 283 of 334
its always going to be worrying when a review of the current state of affairs of a company fails to mention at all the star product that everyone was hooked on........this is going to have bad withdrawal symptoms....
Deal hunter
- 10 Jan 2006 16:33
- 284 of 334
I had lunch with an HVCA member yesterday and he told me that a recent industry report showed UK Fan Coil sales (Molseys main product) being down by 16% and set to fall further with significant over supply in the marketplace thus driving down margins, not good news for ETQ as the Molesy division is already under huge market pressure and seems ill equipped to do much other than lose further ground. My contact is a big user of Fan Coil airconditioners and says that Trox of Germany are the big market gainers and are a really professional outfit which he doesn't think Molesy are. His understanding is that the chairmans claim that overheads is being cut are at variance with the fact that few if any managers/directors have left (apart from the Basingstoke operation which has been seemingly closed). Does anyone know what is going on at ETQ or can confirm/deny/expand on what I have heard?, we are all looking for recovery stocks but this still looks more like a black hole than an opportunity, so, come on Money Man or Sharesure, you seem to have a better idea than most as to whats going on, is there money to be made or have you bailed out of this stock (all I see are Sales of shares no big speculative Buys) ?. Not surprised that there is no mention of Nightingale, its just a sink down which the shareholders money has been poured, how come no one has fallen on his sword over this fiasco, it cannot possibly have been all Gerrard Thomsens fault, when are the culprits who lost our money going to pay the price ?
Sharesure
- 10 Jan 2006 17:18
- 285 of 334
Deal Hunter, No, I have not bailed out. I view ETQ as 'option money' and really a gamble on the Tchenquiz family not wishing to see their recent investment go down the drain and so therefore they will either have to prop it up or look to do a shell deal. I thought it was Molesley which would be getting the chop, with Basingstoke being continued. At Basingstoke they do have Suvair products being developed as recently as 3 months ago.
At the last emergency fund raising the mgt must have put fwd a reasonable business plan to have got the money they did get; agree this is high risk, but then if you are only going to get .5p/share, until you need to chrystallize tax losses nearer the t/y/e, what is the point in selling now. Agreed it could be allowed to go bust, but on the other hand phoenix operations are also not unknown. Don't know whether that helps much, but I/m staying put until end March.
Deal hunter
- 06 Feb 2006 18:05
- 286 of 334
What does anyone know about James Lugg the new ETQ Director (= yet another snout in the trough), I have asked around my HVCA contractor friends and nobody seems to know of him which is surprising as he supposed to have been in the industry for 25 years as an owner operator of his own business, must have kept a very low profile or been spectacularly unsuccessful not to have come to someones attention (especially as he must have started his career in HVCA at 19 !). Certainly none of his current directorships suggest that nerve ends should tingle with expectation of a turnaround and the current `sell' pattern of the shares suggest I am not alone in being underwhelmed by this appointment. I expected an industry `hard man' with a successful turnaround track record to be brought in to sort ETQ out but instead it's another appointment without a clear rationale. Has everyone out there finally thrown in the towel or do you know something about Lugg that I do not i.e am I grossly underestimating the new mans capabilities ?.
Sharesure
- 06 Feb 2006 18:40
- 287 of 334
Deal Hunter, Doubt Lugg is anything other than an implant for the Tchenquiz brothers who are getting deeper into this probably more than they wanted to. I have decided to continue to hold (at least until the tax y/e when a capital loss would be handy) also in the possible hope that Tchenquiz bros. recent announcement that they are going into environmentally friendly businesses may mean that ETQ becomes useful as a vehicle to give them a start + tax losses. I realise that that is a long shot but I doubt the company will now go bust. It might just get interesting - one day - but I wouldn't hold your breath whilst waiting for that to happen.
Sharesure
- 14 Feb 2006 12:15
- 288 of 334
Nothing needs to be read into Steve McNeice, FD, stepping down from the Board. He was unfortunate enough to suffer a serious illness following a acquiring an infection whilst Scuba diving in the Med. near Cannes a couple of years ago.
Slapshot
- 20 Feb 2006 12:07
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New to this thread as I bottom trawl for potential bargains, have to say Energy Tecnique seems more like a train crash than a trading company and the last hour reading all the old threads and the Chairmens Reports has been hilarious (but probably not so if you bought in at the ridiculous levels of even a few months ago). Don't know why so many of you are putting your faith in the Teguize family to bail ET out, when did they become the `Lazarus raisers' of the AIM market ?.They may be smarting at having been very publically suckered into this ludicrous investment but its peanuts to them i.e. not worth wasting management time on. Caplin apart, I do not recognise any of the Board as serious players, real intent on Teguize part would be organising a real power play not just farting around whilst the share price drifts ever lower.