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Empyrean Energy (EME) (EME)     

PapalPower - 21 Nov 2005 08:12

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Size=283*18Chart.aspx?Provider=Intra&Code=EME&Size=big.chart?symb=uk%3Aeme&compidx=aaaaa%3AEmpyrean Energy

Web site : http://www.empyreanenergy.com

Darradev - 17 Aug 2006 16:27 - 326 of 2087

Mr T, here is a link to some background info on drilling and completion of oil and gas wells.

http://www.ukooa.co.uk/education/students/drilling.htm

Mr Turbot - 17 Aug 2006 16:42 - 327 of 2087

Hi Darradev

Many thanks for the link. This will help me understand where my money is going!

Cheers

Darradev - 17 Aug 2006 16:45 - 328 of 2087

you are most welcome.

HARRYCAT - 17 Aug 2006 17:03 - 329 of 2087

cynic - you didn't respond to shadow's #324 post!
I have been desperatly trying to find info on the prospects for EME. This at least seems positive.
If you know different, please share, 'cos any info, even if bad, is better than no info at all!

cynic - 17 Aug 2006 17:14 - 330 of 2087

I know nothing ..... nor I suspect does Shadow and certainly the market does not think he does .... That does not mean he will be proven to be wrong; merely that there is nothing known to report other than that Sugarloaf is expected to be spudded within a few days (that's prob provable) ..... This in itself is merely of interest until there is something either good or bad to report

HARRYCAT - 17 Aug 2006 17:20 - 331 of 2087

Cheers.
I suspect I know why you picked that user name!
Nevertheless, wise words.

cynic - 17 Aug 2006 17:31 - 332 of 2087

more to the point ..... if you currently hold the shares, then just arguably hang on for the time being and say lots of prayers ...... if you don't, then don't! .... if there really is sustainable good news, then there will be plenty of time to get on board, but the odds must be stacked against

tcdmct - 17 Aug 2006 17:45 - 333 of 2087

I have been following all trades on EME,the only sellars i see selling is the small trader,whom may take advice on threads like this.
As far as i can see no large sales recently.Unless 10,000 is a large sale,but even then thats only a 4000 trade.
I will hold my 17,500 bought at 1.26,and hopefully get some of my money back,or as some say (4 +)i migh even make some money.
Time will tell.

HARRYCAT - 17 Aug 2006 22:24 - 334 of 2087

Yes, I still hold stock. 47p & 97p.
I am wise enough to assess information from lots of sources before I make any decisions. Discussion boards are useful as providers of ideas and links to news threads, particularly with high risk stocks where the share price moves on the mere hint of news.
I will continue to hold, pending profitability.

cynic - 18 Aug 2006 10:07 - 335 of 2087

so then .... Sugarloaf drilling has started, but having read through the technical gobbledegook, and notwithstanding that EME will report weekly, am I not right in thinking that nothing will really be known until October/November? ....... Also, even if reasonable commercial volumes of gas are found, is a 6% holding sufficient to make the shares worth (say) 2.00 or even 1.50? ..... If not, is today's price (about 52) leaving too much risk on the table?

tcdmct - 18 Aug 2006 10:27 - 336 of 2087

Cynic you seem to a lot to say about nothing on this thread,are you trying to drive the share price down,then buy cheap,or do you just like to open your mouth and talk a lot of gobbledegook (your words).
Please do tell,do you hold shares with EME.

HARRYCAT - 18 Aug 2006 10:29 - 337 of 2087

Risk is what this is all about. If you want steady, sustained growth, paying a good dividend, then exploration stocks are not the place to be.
This morning the price of EME bounced up 20% just because they started drilling. They are still not producing an end product!
If you set your sell to trigger automatically at a certain, realistic price, there is no reason not to take advantage of the bounces. Where else can you get 10-15% return on your money in a short period of time?
I agree, that the rise is purely a knee jerk reaction to good news and won't last. I am afraid brand loyalty is a thing of the past. Lock in profit & move on.
However, I do think that the momentum of (good) news from EME should take the price over 100p, but as you say, that is going to be in the late autumn.

cynic - 18 Aug 2006 10:40 - 338 of 2087

in answer to the Q, i held EME for a long time, but when all collapsed, i got out at about 85 ..... nevertheless i still follow the share (and a good number of others) ..... if you think EME is a thundering buy at this price, then put your money on the table now ..... for myself, and Harrycat concurs, i think the present bounce is pure "lemming" and likely to be unsustainable, especially if there is any general market sell-off (far from impossible)

tcdmct - 18 Aug 2006 10:53 - 339 of 2087

I see Cynic,you sold at about 85p,so now there is a move up for EME and you dont like it as it may surpass the 85p you sold at,or are you mad that you didnt buy back in at 38p.
People can see for them self,I do hold shares which were bought at 1.26 so i have a long way to go before i see any return if any,but i will take the chance,and hope it comes good.
There is always risk.

cynic - 18 Aug 2006 11:13 - 340 of 2087

think what you like ..... and if i had thought EME was a "thundering buy" either at 38 or even now, i would put my money where my mouth is .... i don't, though there is a (reasonable?) chance that EME will recover at least spome of its poise ..... Equally, i did not and will not buy RPT as i think the management stinks, notwithstanding that share too has surged in the last week or so ......

for myself, i think (perhaps wrongly) that VOG is a better bet, and even more speculatively, GOO and CHP, though I would be very pleasantly surprised if all 3 or even just 1 hit the jackpot.

tcdmct - 18 Aug 2006 11:22 - 341 of 2087

Well i am sure urself(even thoo you dont hold EME)and those who do hold would like to see this one hit the jackpot.

Regards

cynic - 18 Aug 2006 11:27 - 342 of 2087

indeed, though as i said in my earlier post, i don't think there is any hurry to jump on board as "true" news is at least 8 weeks away ..... at least regular updates will keep the share on the bubble one way or the other

soul traders - 18 Aug 2006 13:13 - 343 of 2087

Afternoon all.

Sugarloaf: 6% interest. I'm with Cynic on this one - it looks like a hold for those who are in. If the find is towards lower end of expectations then it won't provide a lot of upside to the shares. If it is multi-trillion cuft it could be worth a bit. Wait for the drilling results, IMO.

tcdmt - in my experience Cynic is one of the most objective posters you'll find on these BB's and I am grateful to him for posing the questions too many of us forget to ask. He's also frequently right! If your "sure thing" passes Cynic's tests, you could be on to a winner. If not, I'd query whether I was skating on thin ice.

cynic - 18 Aug 2006 13:13 - 344 of 2087

and cynic wishes he was better at taking his own advice!

soul traders - 18 Aug 2006 13:15 - 345 of 2087

LOL - like me you benefit from 20/20 hindsight!! :O)
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