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Traders Thread - Thursday 18th December (CCL)     

Crocodile - 17 Dec 2003 21:33

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U.S. stocks ended the session little changed with the Dow up 15.70, S&P up 1.35 and the Nasdaq down 2.96

National Express coach and rail firm said trading for the year to was in line with market expectations, as customer numbers grew at its UK trains division.and it was comfortable with full-year forecasts of 100 million pounds profits

United Business Media publishing, broadcasting and market research company said that second half revenues should be ahead of last year, despite the weakness of the U.S. dollar. Trading conditions in the U.S. had improved and there has been a greater than expected recovery in Asia. It also said it was buying Eurisko, a market research company in Italy, for 33 million euros.Britannic Group said it was on track to resume dividend payments of 10 pence per share to shareholders and annual bonuses for most of its with-profits policyholders following extensive restructuring. It has also paid back 50 million in bank borrowings.

Redrow housebuilder said it expected to raise its annual dividend by at least 20 percent this financial year and maintain similar growth next year, buoyed by strong housing sales.

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09.30 Nov PSNCR, 7bn exp. 09.30 Chancellor Brown Comments on the Pre-Budget Report 09.30 Nov Retail Sales m/m, 0.1% exp. 09.30 Nov Preliminary M4 Money Supply y/y, 6.7% exp. 09.30 Nov CML, BBA & BSA Lending

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13.30 Initial Jobless Claims (w/e 13/12) 15.00 Nov Leading Indicators, 0.3% exp. 17.00 Dec Philly Fed, 25.90 prev.

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08.00 Dec German IFO Expectations, 108.7 prev. 11.00 3rd Quarter Labour Costs

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little woman - 18 Dec 2003 12:38 - 34 of 60

Sorry - but I also think LLOY has taken a lot of unjustified flak which is why the shares were doing so badly..... (Unlike ANL which was justified !)

Fundamentalist - 18 Dec 2003 12:49 - 35 of 60

I tend to agree, I dare say we have been in and out of lloyds at similar times. It will be interesting to see what they do with the cash they now have - share buy backs/special divi???

ThePlayboy - 18 Dec 2003 13:32 - 36 of 60

jobless 353k, exp 365k!

little woman - 18 Dec 2003 13:40 - 37 of 60

Reopened my CFD account! Long HBOS,DXNS,ULVR and short LLOY. Scapled a long ICI already, will only scalp today as got to go out for a hour or two soon.

Fundamentalist - 18 Dec 2003 13:46 - 38 of 60

why short lloy???

little woman - 18 Dec 2003 13:55 - 39 of 60

Just for a very quick profit with the CFD! Trouble is they are quoting .25 higher than current prices - so I'm not happy as this is my profit!

little woman - 18 Dec 2003 14:01 - 40 of 60

Just turned LLOY arround, and now long!

little woman - 18 Dec 2003 14:14 - 41 of 60

Should have stayed short LLOY - just wiped short profit out!

stockbunny - 18 Dec 2003 14:24 - 42 of 60

Amazing..today BRT announces a return to paying divi's
a few days ago I noticed a rise in buying of and the price of
their shares, apparently for no reason.....How often do
private investors see this happen? - Yes I know frequently!

ThePlayboy - 18 Dec 2003 14:35 - 43 of 60

Gap up open Through Ed,s 10150, The US crave 10200 possibly!

zarif - 18 Dec 2003 14:50 - 44 of 60

pboy
Did u see the spike down just b4 - i got a short which proved profitable.now to follow the trend.

stockbunny - 18 Dec 2003 15:30 - 45 of 60

FTSE is going for 4400 - fingers crossed!

Melnibone - 18 Dec 2003 16:20 - 46 of 60

Taken this opportunity of the FTSE at 4400 to take
the last of my profit and close my last long.

Not saying that the FTSE is going down, but near the
top of the trend channel the risk is to the downside
unless you get a trend channel breakout. As I've
said before, all is not lost if we get the breakout,
it usually comes back to test the previous resistance
as a support at least once, which will give me another
entry point.

So I ve not gone all bearish, just adjusting position
to the risk/reward situation.

Good luck to anyone staying with the longs.

Melnibone.

zarif - 18 Dec 2003 16:24 - 47 of 60

Melnobone i agree totally with your advice -if you go in with a gunslinger attitude you may win once or twice but ultimately the market will eat you alive.
What are your views on dow today.?

rgds
zarif

Melnibone - 18 Dec 2003 16:26 - 48 of 60

Taken this opportunity of the FTSE at 4400 to take
the last of my profit and close my last long.

Not saying that the FTSE is going down, but near the
top of the trend channel the risk is to the downside
unless you get a trend channel breakout. As I've
said before, all is not lost if we get the breakout,
it usually comes back to test the previous resistance
as a support at least once, which will give me another
entry point.

So I ve not gone all bearish, just adjusting position
to the risk/reward situation.

Good luck to anyone staying with the longs.

Melnibone.

Melnibone - 18 Dec 2003 16:26 - 49 of 60

Taken this opportunity of the FTSE at 4400 to take
the last of my profit and close my last long.

Not saying that the FTSE is going down, but near the
top of the trend channel the risk is to the downside
unless you get a trend channel breakout. As I've
said before, all is not lost if we get the breakout,
it usually comes back to test the previous resistance
as a support at least once, which will give me another
entry point.

So I ve not gone all bearish, just adjusting position
to the risk/reward situation.

Good luck to anyone staying with the longs.

Melnibone.

Melnibone - 18 Dec 2003 16:31 - 50 of 60

Don't know why that post came out 3 times.

I didn't do it intentionally.

Spooky.

Melnibone

Crocodile - 18 Dec 2003 16:40 - 51 of 60

Melnibone, good for the figures :-)

Melnibone - 18 Dec 2003 16:41 - 52 of 60

Hi zarif,

I'm not really much of an expert on the DOW, not much
of one on the FTSE come to think of it :-), but if you
twist my arm I would say that if the S@P/DOW continue to
rally, then I would look for highs of 1085/10,235 and then a
sell off.

If it doesn't go higher I would expect a retreat from 10,200
on profit taking and a retest of the new 1075 support,
previously resistance, on the S@P.

Don't know if that fits in with your own views, but there you
have it.

Melnibone.

zarif - 18 Dec 2003 16:44 - 53 of 60

Thanks melnibone same guesstimates as mine. I believe we are due a correction soon as things are getting silly but then again all we can say is that the market is always right!!!!

rgds
zarif
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