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Petrofac - service supplier to oil/gas industry (PFC)     

cynic - 31 Jul 2006 16:46

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On 3rd July PFC announced that it was trading well ahead of expectations. Not surprisingly, sp jumped but has now fallen back pretty much to the same level as before the announcement.

While perhaps not as exciting as finding the next Cairn, remember that in the goldrush days, it was rarely the prospectors who made the money, but rather the suppliers of the spades and tents and stuff - e.g. Levis if memory serves me aright.

canary9 - 31 Dec 2006 18:00 - 37 of 839

Cynic, my principle that has served me well is that ' if they were a good buy at 2 say, then when the share doubles they are not such a good buy, and it's time to take some profit and reduce exposure'. Depending on the news flow ,the prospective P/E and P/S, and my exposure, that could be anything from 10% to 50% of my holding. Not that they are a bad share, but the downside risk has increased, while there is less upside to go for. When the newsflow turns less encouraging, I'm out!

For the moment the newsflow around service companies continues to be bullish and I am not selling, but neither am I buying much, as I have met my weighting for oil service companies. One or two small ones in niche areas such as Hallin Marine and Velosi may still be worth a gamble imo..... perhaps will show faster growth and not on too high a rating.....could also be acquisition targets. DYOR

cynic - 31 Dec 2006 19:13 - 38 of 839

there is another argument that when a share has a strong upward trend, that it will maintain it ..... though that is not to say that one should not perhaps put in place a trailing stop.

put slightly differently ..... a quality share, as opposed to one merely followed by the headlomng lemmings, will double and maintain that trend because the company continues to show strong growth and profitability .... until that changes, it is possibly or even probably not the right time to switch horses.

we shall see!

Darradev - 20 Feb 2007 09:23 - 39 of 839

Bit of a dip in January but looking up now, and back above 400 again. Hope it holds this time.

chad - 26 Feb 2007 13:42 - 40 of 839

What's everyone's expectations with this one at the moment? Its got good momentum and in its in a booming industry with a strong orderbook. However, P/E is looking a bit heavy at 22. How far is it gunna go before a correction?

cynic - 26 Feb 2007 13:52 - 41 of 839

i very much like the company and sector, though i note that one of the fund managers suggests switching from PFC to Wood ..... glad to see sp at last breaching 400 and keeping fingers crossed that it will hold it ...... 25 dma thundering up underneath

hlyeo98 - 05 Mar 2007 08:56 - 42 of 839

PFC is not the only one going down...DOO and RVA hit too.

cynic - 05 Mar 2007 09:30 - 43 of 839

DOO and RVA are little 3rd rate companies (though I hold DOO) ..... PFC is in a totally different league (and sector!)

hlyeo98 - 05 Mar 2007 09:34 - 44 of 839

But as u say, it is a steam roller...FTSE down by 102 now

cynic - 06 Mar 2007 08:10 - 45 of 839

i have been telling you all, this was a really good company in which to invest ..... yesterday's figures proved the point .... today's Telegraph and prob other papers too will tell you to BUY

canary9 - 06 Mar 2007 08:31 - 46 of 839

Cynic,I hope your optimism is rewarded,but market seems pretty unimpressed so far. Needs this kind of performance with the current rating. How long can it continue?

hlyeo98 - 06 Mar 2007 08:33 - 47 of 839

cynic, PFC has been going down ever since the news came out. SELL on the news.

cynic - 06 Mar 2007 08:49 - 48 of 839

i already hold and shall definitely continue to do so ..... this company has proven quality ...... much better (safer) investment than the likes of SOLA which is fine for trading with stop losses and a view to sell at a predetermined target level.

cynic - 06 Mar 2007 10:56 - 49 of 839

98 .... and recovering gently (now +8/10p) .... as i keep saying, though most here choose to ignore, this is a quality company with the records and forward order book to prove it

scotinvestor - 06 Mar 2007 16:40 - 50 of 839

u r the only flogging this one cynic

u always seem to be doom and gloom on the shares that i have

pfc seem a bit high at present

cynic - 06 Mar 2007 16:44 - 51 of 839

rad the figures and trading statement and press reports and then tell me again sp is too high.

if i throw cold water on your choices, that's because it's the way i genuinely see it.

if i am the only one who rates wheat over chaff, then keep eating straw; i'll stick to fine white bread (+ colon cancer!)

partridge - 06 Mar 2007 17:32 - 52 of 839

Another long term holder here. Sticking to quality (mainly medium sized businesses) has paid handsomely for me over more than 30 years. OK might miss the odd rapid ten bagger, but also miss the much more prevalent dross. Scotinvestor - what do you hold? If they do not make profits, generate cash and pay dividends, then IMO chances are you will lose money over time. Last three years have been very benign, so dross done better than might be expected longer term. Only difficulty I can see at present to hinder growth for PFC is that they cannot keep order book down to an acceptable level for their customers i.e getting the job done within an acceptable time. Sector dictates that price likely to be volatile from time to time, but IMO long term trend likely to be upwards.Always DYOR.

TheFrenchConnection - 13 Mar 2007 14:46 - 53 of 839

Difficult to play the Devils advocate on PFC..One can but reiterate its a Quality stock. Perhaps on face value it may appear a little expensive - but considering its recent results,profits and cashflow with div covered 4 times; and with the provisio of a full order book for 2007, this price is quite justified . What do you want ?? The moon on a stick ? !! Bought a few, a year or so back, on the back of the tight rotary count,{ 95.7% inc. workovers } with a few other oil / gas sector plays on manufacters of infrastructure in the industry .SDX springs to mind ....Usually as many of you know i only invest in this sector coupled with a number of mining concerns and a 10% AND GROWING PERCENTILE in utlities -- WATER !!! } ......Lets face facts . Oil Expos alone without ANY BANKED RESERVES or endless pockets,or j/v partners of the BEST kind ( sic) are PURE specuculation - No REAL money there this past year without unparralled risk - .Even Expo/PRODUCERS -even BIG OIL { B.P. down 200 pts in a matter of months .} have taken a larruping lately !!! ...............Yet Messrs Levi andco denim manufacturers still ply there trade to this day ......theres a simle moral there somewhere ...lncidentally i would have posted on this thread earliar ; but has no idea it even existed. .......Bonne chance et al .......a'bientot ...@+ J. Hi hlyeo - You like your charts . Scrutinize this one . Chases upper bolly ..support levels fom a few ema ...................but at the end of the day you cannot ignore the results !..........

garfeebloke - 04 Apr 2007 10:32 - 54 of 839

Cynic, Without wishing to sound like a psycophant, thanks for getting me onto this and RTN. I'm new to this and spread betting only, but you've done me proud. PFC does look a little overbought at the moment, any idea why it appears to be rocketing?

cynic - 04 Apr 2007 11:06 - 55 of 839

it's just a damn good company with the right product in the right sector ..... btw, do mean you are a psychopath or a sycophant?

garfeebloke - 04 Apr 2007 11:12 - 56 of 839

Hopefully neither! I will own that the more usual spelling is without the "p" although both are acceptable.......I was about to credit The Grauniad then and thought better of it.
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