Proselenes
- 17 Nov 2012 09:42
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niceonecyril
- 18 Nov 2012 10:27
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http://www.shafaaq.com/en/news/4093-washington-offers-deploying-its-troop-in-the-disputed-areas-.html
Washington offers deploying its troop in the disputed areas
Sunday, 18 November 2012 09:49
Shafaq News /An informed Kurdish source said on Sunday, that Washington entered on crisis line after forming Dijla forces between Baghdad and Erbil to end it, while offered to re-deploy the U.S. troops in the disputed areas and considered the armed clash with Peshmarga troops as a “red line."
The source said in remarks quoted by a Kuwaiti newspaper, and briefed by "Shafaq News", that" U.S. diplomats in Baghdad have begun contacts and meetings with the two parties, (Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki )and (Kurdistan Region’s President Massoud Barzani) to end the problem and reach a joint agreement to manage the disputed areas. "
"One of the submitted solutions is to re-deploy the U.S. forces in the disputed areas to ensure there are no clashes between the army and between the Kurdish Peshmarga", adding that "al-Maliki rejected this proposal."
He added that "Washington does not oppose to re-deploy its military forces in the region if the disputes parties wanted that," stressing that "U.S. Vice President , Joe Biden responsible of the Iraqi file is excited for this step because the U.S. administration will not allow the outbreak of any fighting between Baghdad forces and Erbil forces on the basis that any development represents a severe strike to the United States, which supported the political process in Iraq for nearly ten years. "
The source pointed out that "Biden told Maliki that the armed clash with Kurdish Peshmarga is a red line", warning that "U.S. forces will intervene in the event of the outbreak of fighting in Kirkuk and any other area."
"The U.S. National Security Chancellery is convinced that the movements of al-Maliki to impose his military control on Kurdistan is due to the Iranian and Syrian regimes," adding that "moving in this period under the name of Dijla Operations Command established by Iraqi Prime Minister aims to undermine the Turkish influence and countries in the Gulf Cooperation Council’s influence, which has grown dramatically in Kurdistan Region recently . "
The disputed areas between Erbil and Baghdad witnessed major security tensions after the government announced the formation of Dijla Operations Command, which has subjected the army and police forces in Kirkuk, Diyala and Salahuddin provinces and Erbil’s rejection of these forces because no one discussed the matter with it when it was formed.
The armed clash occurred between the guards of one of the headquarters of Kurdish parties in Tuz Khurmatu district in Salahuddin province and a force of the federal police on Friday, killing one civilian and wounding ten police
Proselenes
- 18 Nov 2012 11:23
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The US can offer what they want - the Iraqis will say "sod off its our country and we run it, not you".
In other words as the article says, the Iraqi's said "no thanks, no need for US troops".
Kurdistan is just a province of Iraq, like Texas is in the US. Wonder if the Iraqi's offered to send troops into Texas the US would say yes or no.
Proselenes
- 18 Nov 2012 13:34
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I feel the Israeli action in Gaza is to weaken Hamas so it poses no threat when Iranian nuclear facilities get bombed before too long.
Personally I would be very wary of all things middle east for the foreseeable future, things are going to get very rough - forget the court case and Kurd/Iraq skirmishes, bigger things are there than that.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323551004578123042469361174.html
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niceonecyril
- 18 Nov 2012 14:22
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from another board,to our de-ramper.
Pro
I suggest you stop knocking GKP ( and CHAR) and at the same time ramping FOGL. No LT holder here is going to sell GKP and buy FOGL - your objective. Ditto CHAR I suspect.
Proselenes
- 18 Nov 2012 14:38
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Thing is I am not "ramping FOGL", hardly even posting on it.
It looks to me like many people are so emotionally attached to GKP they are in love with it and holding it all the way through into massive losses.............
Never ever fall in love with a stock, never think that the grass is soon to be green. This just shows how emotionally attached and very insecure some people are.......they really should not be investing in stocks.
cynic
- 18 Nov 2012 15:37
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FOGL and Mr P
since 1st november, 44 posts in total of which 14 from MrP = very nearly 33% .... thus "hardly ever posting on it" does not remotely stand up to scrutiny
niceonecyril
- 18 Nov 2012 19:23
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http://www.dinarupdates.com/blog/
Washington suffered its troop deployment in the disputed and longer engagement with Alپeshmrگh “red line”
Twilight News / source said KORDI early, on Sunday, that Washington entered on line crisis raised far shaping forces Tigris between Baghdad and Erbil to end it, as offered re-deployment of U.S. troops in the disputed areas, promised firefight with troops Alپeshmrگh “red line.”
The source said in remarks quoted by a Kuwaiti newspaper, and seen by “Twilight News”,“U.S. diplomats in Baghdad have begun contacts and meetings with the parties, (Prime Minister Nuri) al-Maliki and (Kurdistan Region President Massoud) Barzani, aimed at ending the problem and reach a joint agreement to manage the disputed areas. “
The source noted that “one of the solutions is to re-deployment of U.S. forces in the disputed areas to ensure there were no clashes between the army and between Kurdish Alپeshmrگh”, adding that “al-Maliki rejected this proposal.”
He added that “Washington is not opposed to re-deploy military forces in the region if it wants parties to the dispute in that,” stressing that “U.S. Vice President Joe Biden on the Iraqi file excited for this step because the administration would not allow the outbreak of any fighting between forces of Baghdad and the forces of Arbil on the grounds This development represents a severe blow to the United States, which sponsored political process in Iraq for nearly ten years. ”
The source pointed out that “Biden told Maliki that the armed clash with Kurdish Alپeshmrگh is a red line”, warning that “U.S. forces would intervene in the event of the outbreak of fighting in Kirkuk and any other area.”…
*Washington has apparently decided to step in again…it’s about time. They are working on diplomatic solutions but have finally given Maliki some serious ultimatums. The VP told him that any attack on the Kurds would not be tolerated. We would intervene…also he had previously “offered” to send US troops back to “get between” the Kurds and the Iraqi Regulars. Notice Maliki wanted none of that idea…a response directly contrary to his babble in the media a couple of days ago. Looks like to me they are finally forcing his hand and not letting him just stand there and talk… *
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niceonecyril
- 19 Nov 2012 09:47
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niceonecyril
- 19 Nov 2012 09:50
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niceonecyril
- 19 Nov 2012 12:18
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Not exactly sucking up to the Yanks?
The Kuwaiti News agency also reported that Joe Biden also warned Iraqi Prime Minister last week not to release Ali Musa Daqduq, a Hezbollah operative responsible for killing of American troops in Iraq. However, Baghdad officials released the prisoner on Friday.
mnamreh
- 19 Nov 2012 12:26
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niceonecyril
- 19 Nov 2012 14:10
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niceonecyril
- 19 Nov 2012 14:31
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niceonecyril
- 19 Nov 2012 23:27
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r
SantoTraficante
1UP
22:26
Re: Court
Divewally
37UP
The viewpoint from the train home........
Having taken time to occasionally attend proceedings in court 15 and witness first hand an aspect of the GKP story we all could have done without it struck me that today's body language appeared somewhat altered from initial commencement of a taking of the witness stand by RW (I welcome others thoughts) and it seemed evident that JG's careful structuring of questions and systematic backing into a corner approach were perhaps now taking their toll? Less swagger and self confidence as it appeared to those regularly seated perhaps ...from the earlier days when Eric Wempen received a hearty and hefty slap on the back from his brother Rex as he went to first take the stand (such a strange thing to do I thought myself?).
Careful probing and well thought out questioning were followed up by the usual revealing email that often got to the heart of the matter of JG's thrust of argument and it seemed evident to those in attendance that a simple yes or no would have sufficed..but as usual no such quick and easy reply was to be forthcoming. Rather the careful drawn out water sipping "round the houses" reflective answer often to JG's angst. Nevertheless a little more probing (and occasionally interjection by the judge) brought forth an eventual response of clarification.
The matter/timing of the MOL (possible) approach made (in such a roundabout way) was touched on at some length today, I'm sure those who took notes will elaborate more fully here later but the (not intended?) manner in which they were approached was gone into in some depth (the approach itself was perceived in a less than welcome light by either MOL ..or by TK suffice to say). Email here was very telling and JG seized the opportunity to refer to it to good effect (as always!)
So a slight mood change perhaps ...or as has been commented on ..a bit of an in depth grilling. A combination of both perhaps? Job well done JG.
During the lunchtime recess a casual chat by one of the many private investors (I've had the pleasure of meeting) revealed he was rather frail and in his seventies and was greatly worried over his somewhat significant investment... pondering the wisdom now of this case coming to court but like him and many others we have formed our own opinions and greatly benefitted from attending and seeing for ourselves the sharper end of the unfolding GKP story. It's a trip worth doing if you can to see reaction and body language that reporting cannot truly reflect!
Usual caveats apply/a perceived view by casual observer only and no reliance/inference intended.DYOR. GLA.
DW.
Balerboy
- 20 Nov 2012 15:26
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Anyone with the full story??
By Patrick Osgood and Staff of Iraq Oil Report
Published November 20, 2012 ERBIL - Federal and Kurdistan region leaders are sending thousands of troops to their contested border, days after a shootout between rival security forces killed one and injured at least eight others.
The crisis marks a dangerous escalation in the long-standing dispute over Iraq's internal boundaries, which has long threatened to combust into civil conflict. The town of Tuz Khurmatu, the scene of Friday's shooting, lies in an area where oil contracts have been signed but long-term agreements on comp...
niceonecyril
- 20 Nov 2012 16:33
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BAGHDAD, Nov. 20 (Xinhua) -- The Iraqi government suggested Tuesday to jointly control the security with the Kurdish regional forces in the disputed areas in northern Iraq, in a bid to ease the tension between Baghdad and the autonomous Kurdistan region, an official Kurdish website said.
"The ministerial council proposed in its meeting Tuesday to jointly run the security file of the disputed areas between the federal government and Kurdistan region," said the official website of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), a major Kurdish party.
Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki will send the proposal by his Kurdish deputy Roj Nouri Shawis to the regional government of Kurdistan which will response after discussing it, the website said.
Maliki's move is seen as an attempt to ease the tension between Baghdad and the autonomous Kurdistan region that has been running high after the Iraqi central government established a military command, named Tigris Operations Command, to control the security in the disputed areas in the provinces of Kirkuk, Diyala and Salahudin.
On Monday, Maliki warned Kurdish regional security forces not to change positions or move close to the positions of central government troops.
Maliki's warning came as response to the deployment of thousands of Kurdish regional forces in the disputed area of Tuz- Khurmato, some 200 km north of Baghdad.
On Friday, skirmishes between the Iraqi forces and the Kurdish regional guard forces (known as Peshmerga) in the city of Tuz- Khurmato led to the killing of an Iraqi soldier and a civilian, and the wounding of four Baghdad soldiers.
Disagreements between Baghdad and the Kurdish regional government have been high for years, as the ethnic Kurds consider the northern oil-rich province of Kirkuk and parts of Nineveh, Diyala and Salahudin provinces as disputed areas and want them to be incorporated into their semi-autonomous Kurdish enclave, a move fiercely opposed by the Arabs and Turkomans.
http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/detail%3Fcode%3Dcotn:GKP.L%26display%3Ddiscussion
niceonecyril
- 20 Nov 2012 18:54
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17:42
Re: Judge
a4tlo
9UP
The judge has told SP he wants the information tomorrow, Rex said he met one of the lemos. Brothers but can't remember. Out of court I have never SP face look so serious.
The show goes on. On a last note, when Eric said his counsel introduce ex to lemmos Bros. It was a big nail in the coffin.
niceonecyril
- 20 Nov 2012 19:21
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18:39
Re: interesting connections
pj66
8UP
The alex guy for GC was the one i spoke of in my first court post . ( innitials embroided on his cuffs)
i'd say there connected .....
just spoke to Nige , he said the excal counsel where totally gutted and had a look of disbeleif on there faces when RW named Lemos . - TK turned up at just in time for the fireworks ..
SP was in a right 2&8
the terms of the deal sould be revealed tommorrow
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cynic
- 20 Nov 2012 19:36
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WTF are Lemos Bros? .... sounds like a music hall comedy duo