any one got a feelling in their water how far LLoyds will go looking to to buy but just dont know when they are low enough

I don't know why shareholders should be suffering...

just freeze all of Fred Goodwin's assets and all his cronies. He's so greedy that he would not part with a penny of his pension.

Furthermore his knighthood should be returned to the Queen. Don't tell me he wouldn't part with that either!

gold is the only place to invest your money in in troubled times like this and it is obvious that things will progressively get alot worse in the coming months ahead and we will more likely see the banks begging the tax payer for more bail outs--i hear from some very impeccable city sources that a major footsie company is on the verge of going bankrupt and several of the banks have considerable exposure and will suffer some huge losses..my advice is to stay well clear of investing in any of these uk banks until the overerall picture becomes much more stable--gold could yet outshine and go on to 1200-1400 dollars an ounce --we shall see!

blueface we love your rumours pray tell us the name of the footsie company about to go bankrupt?

Well I still reckon they will fall to 24p.

Holding at 40p at mo, you still think as low as 24p?

MItzy, do you think this is a lost-cause - or just stupidity ( the HBOS merger) of the highest order, given the uncertainty of HBOS loan-book...?
I sold mine at 52p abt.

I reckon 50/50 chance of hitting 24p.. yes Hangon its looking like a lost cause.

Well the BBC just announced that the bailout is 250bn with a government stake at 60%.
Then they promptly updated the news to delete the 60% part!

When RBS got its bailout there was a massive rally, but I am not certain that this can happen with LLOY because everyone has now seen from the RBS experience that the rally can fizzle and then the share price can collapse.

And the news has been just terrible on all fronts since then, so I am not that confident of a rally tomorrow.

On SKY now the Government to own 77% stake in Lloyds this is a disaster why did they merge with HBOS in the first place Daniels must be sacked on Monday.

As an invester in Lloyds since 1974 I've learned to just sit and wait till all the so called experts have spoken of doom and gloom and that's the best time to invest.

I've also worked in industry and always found that the management that were called to resign by workers and unions were the investers best friend, so stick with it Mr Daniels and next time beware of labour prime-ministers offering a good deal, they will stab you in the back to take the flack off themselves.

So any guess as to mondays price???????

Well it might go up....or it could go down - but then again..........

I can see 10 today on a bear squeeze,bit like vw and Porsche!

More likely to be 10p at the mo, think we were all hoping for a bounce today.

Well not a bad performance considering ot fell to a new low today.

For what it's worth I am convinced that Lloyds will be a good long term investment for those dipping their toes in at these low prices. Also IMHO I do not see the government stake going any further and in time rewards will come to those with patience. I just hope these sentiments don't come back and bite me on the bottom.

For those who lost big time because of their negligence and recent purchase I am sorry I see gain in your lossess

A good performance today considering.

Deanphillips, many hope you're right, but there is no logic as to "when" - and - the current Gov has a hate of "shareholders" ( Witness, NRK!!!).
No-one wants a Mortgage, second Mortgage, yacht etc ( or a fast Motor ) - there are better things to do with any cash you still have. ( and prices are still likley to fall as performance improves!) . . . . so where is LLOY?
er, I sold mine at 50p - huge loss, but I feared they would disapear like NRK - and it's not so far to go . . . . . given another dormant Black hole. . . .
Good Luck....what timescale is yr best bet?

hangon a bit pessimistic perhaps ... the terms were hard, but survivable by the very competent Lloyds team who should be congratulated on the fight they put up to better the terms. My forecast 100p+ plus first div 5 - 7%

tipton