Kivver
- 10 Aug 2004 14:56
- 404 of 706
Am i right in reading TF bought 2m shares, if this is so he must have had genuine faith in what the company had to say.
Kivver
- 10 Aug 2004 15:52
- 405 of 706
The inside knowledge wasn't much good by the look of it, he (and others) must be quite a few quid down!!!
apple
- 10 Aug 2004 15:58
- 406 of 706
Up again today, I wish that I had held on to more of them.
apple
- 12 Aug 2004 00:23
- 407 of 706
Shares mag this week says hold again.
jlacey
- 12 Aug 2004 12:00
- 408 of 706
Everyone
Please don't ask Shares journalists to take part in discussions about anything they write. They are not in a position to do so. We're happy to respond to comments but only via the Letters page in the magazine, which of course can be downloaded on MoneyAM. We're not being bloody minded about this but there are regulatory issues involved for us here.
Shares editor
mikeowen
- 12 Aug 2004 13:58
- 409 of 706
I imagaine they have received a threatening letter from RC & co as is the norm.
Fred1new
- 12 Aug 2004 14:11
- 410 of 706
Oneill. How long will it be before you are a potential pain in your arse to your self?
apple
- 12 Aug 2004 14:13
- 411 of 706
oneill,
Your link does not lead to any info about EPO, nor do the links from that page!
http://www.courtservice.gov.uk/cms/3535.htm
Please give us the real link.
jlacey
- 12 Aug 2004 14:28
- 412 of 706
OK, I'll spell this out one more time. Regardless of what you have read here before, Shares reporters will not enter into correspondence or discussion about the content of the magazine unless it is via the Shares letters page. It is therefore unfair to post a criticism and berate them for not taking part in the discussion. This is our policy. End of discussion.
Shares ed
astonvilla
- 12 Aug 2004 15:05
- 413 of 706
I have been in support of TF but with posts from the editor like this makes me wonder whether I was correct in my judgement. If it was not company policy for journalists to write here and TF should not have done so in the past then write that please.......posters only berated TF because he appeared and posted about a post office deal etc.........and then disappeared again........
mikeowen
- 12 Aug 2004 15:52
- 414 of 706
Oneill.......be mindful that the editor has maybe bought shares in EPO as well!
apple
- 12 Aug 2004 15:57
- 415 of 706
There is no link, this is the only mention on the page.
APPLICATIONS BEFORE QUEENS BENCH MASTERS
ROOM E102
Before DEPUTY MASTER NUSSEY
Thursday, 12th August, 2004
At 11 oclock
The Mayor & Commalty & Citizens of London v- Senghore
Earth Port Plc v- Baltimore Technologies
jonny wilkinson
- 12 Aug 2004 19:51
- 416 of 706
Re Shares Magazine Editor & Tim Freeborn
I don't wish to comment further at present other than remind everyone what i've had to say on the story to date, however i believe i've been totally vindicated on everything i've posted in view of todays statement from Editor, i plan to comment in more detail at a later stage when appropriate.
I think we should be told if other staff purchased shares in EPO other than TF.
Regards
JW
EWRobson
- 12 Aug 2004 21:14
- 417 of 706
This is my first post to an interesting BB. There appears to be a lot of heat being generated, perhaps understandably, by the situation - a lot of people including myself are sitting on significant losses. I would make three points:
(1) Shares mag, including Jeremy Lacey and JF are very much on the side of the small investor. Take this week's comment that 'trading statement this week is encouraging'. So you ask: 'what trading statement?'. They have seen a trading statement that is not embargoed, although not yet published, and that is helpful to me as an investor. So JF has been open in his comments and perhaps trespassed on the limits of journalists license; but he has been doing this in his role of helping the investors who read his magazine. So Earthport have a CE who is not particularly wise in claiming as win situations which are not yet closed. But any of us in business has experienced that and probably made such claims ourselves. As an investor, once I suss out that tendency I factor it into my assessment. I reckon we are bloody lucky to have such a good information source.
(2) If a journalist makes a recommendation, I do not make a decision on the basis of that investment; what I do is to study the evidence. I bought Earthport because I was impressed by their interim report which demonstrates that they have achieved technical and marketing breakthroughs in a potentially very lucrative market. OK, some of those statements were overstated, but the key thing is to await the next firm evidence.
(3) Having said that, I have sold quarter of my earthport holding today. The reason is that my three current holdings (Earthport, ASOS and Alizyme) are competing against each other. ASOS have doubled whilst Earthport have halved, which interestingly is a 25% gain overall. I am very confident that ASOS will double to 1 in the autumn (see my comments on the ASOS bb); I am reasonably confident that earthport will recover to 3p. The key in both cases is the capitalisation. ASOS are capitalised at just over 30m plus; their brokers, Seymour Pearce, are forecasting 67m by the year-end; that figure is low in the light of the current rate of growth and cash generation. earthport are capitalised at some 8M; low compared to the value of their firm contracts with Sportingbet, etc., Wannadoo and in Hong Kong. I'm not as certain that they will hit 15M this year because I haven't got decent figures to base projections on. But I am holding the remaining 75% of my portfolio.
So please accept that we now have a better basis for holding; the story is still as strong; the key question is whether the management can prove themselves. The lawsuit is a potential bonus; I doubt whether it is distacting the management from their primary task.
Tradx
- 13 Aug 2004 07:12
- 418 of 706
EWRobson,
Excellent post. Your thoughts and stance is crystal clear, as is (to my reading) your balanced views.
I too try and in the main to do my own research, and in the main I came to the conclusion that the biggest drawback with epo was the 'over-promising, and under-delivering'. If they can reverse that, then anything could happen.
Tim, is clearly closer to the action than any of us, and when he started taking the tone he did about the ceo and the 'deals', he really did in many eyes lose his credibility as a financial journalist.
I make your call right on ASOS. If you are right about epo, then a whole bunch of us will be joining you and going long.
Lets hope that the trading statement is clear and unequivicol, and puts to rest the fear that they are running out of cash and may need to raise significant funds soon. ..
I wish you luck.
mikeowen
- 13 Aug 2004 07:54
- 419 of 706
EWRobson
"I reckon we are bloody lucky to have such a good information source". ->>> i take it you mean bad luck when you are 50% down!
I believe some folks have been shown done deals in writing before but as of today have not been closed yet/did not exist in the first place, so the same can be said for a trading update! Tim if his claim is right would have seen that update on Tuesday at the latest before going to print so if the update was typed up why the delay in issuing an RNS?
jonny wilkinson
- 13 Aug 2004 12:20
- 420 of 706
Tradx - 13 Aug'04 - 07:12 - 479 of 481 & EWRobson - 12 Aug'04 - 21:14 - 478 of 481
Take this week's comment that 'trading statement this week is encouraging'. So you ask: 'what trading statement?'. They have seen a trading statement that is not embargoed, although not yet published, and that is helpful to me as an investor.
..............................................................................
For the avoidance of doubt, was Shares magazine shown a copy of a trading statement no later than Tuesday which is not embargoed, yet EPO have not issued an RNS to the market, if true i consider this a very serious offence, in fact i plan to contact FSA to ask their opinion.
Some of what you guys write is very amusing, do all research you like, competitors valuations, technical analysis, listen to RC at private shareholders meetings re order pipeline / dealflow. I think one should analyse actual revenues, cost base, cash position rather than all the hype which surrounds this stock. I'm on record as saying the best way to shut me up and generate shareholder value is to deliver on their promises, if they do everyone will win for sure.
I'm aware one market maker has an order to fill at 1.5p in order to support price, bearing in mind comments in Shares magazine recently when RC is supposed to have mentioned there is someone shorting stock then in my opinion this buyer is someone close to the action to help support price , once order is filled, price move up on ' Encouraging Trading Statement 'hoping shorters will be caught out, maybe this explains delay in issuing official Trading Update.
As usual don't accept my word, do your own research.
Tradx
- 17 Aug 2004 17:10
- 421 of 706
oneill,
as always, think peeps are trying to see if their is any substance in the latest rumours, i.e. 10 million share buy attempt and a trading update..so far both look like more of the same old BS (well done ED.)...
I'll keep popping in, one day one of them must come true.
Be lucky.
astonvilla
- 18 Aug 2004 13:31
- 422 of 706
oneill......I now have to agree with you.......TF has to clarify the situation as something has gone terribly wrong with the communication of his information. It's not ok for JLacey to write he can't comment.......he wrote on this BB and in the magazine and he needs to give his comments ASAP. I did not invest in this company off TF's article and I still have hope for the future but journalists need to be accountable and if need be hold there hands up and say sorry I was misled...if that is the case.
Andyjfoth
- 19 Aug 2004 08:33
- 423 of 706
There is no point selling at these stupid low prices.
Thanks Tim i bought 1 million Share at 3.5p on your article.
RC give us some positive news!!