LEEWINK
- 12 Aug 2003 11:59
looks like its hit oil, don't know whats gonna happen, any idea's ???
soul traders
- 07 Apr 2006 12:54
- 405 of 567
Gerry, on the subject of "long term hold" (your post No. 400), I have just one word to say:
"Italy".
I'm viewing Holland as a very respectable starter, but Italy could turn out to be the main course. Avington-3 is the breadsticks and if I'm feeling really frivolous I might say that Guyane is the after-dinner mints.
Seriously, I would be very interested to see what comes out of the Italian scenario; naturally it's being overshadowed at present by near-term events in Holland and quite rightly so. In the future, however, who knows? I like the idea that NOP could turn out to be one of those E&P's that just grows, and grows, and grows and grows as they keep adding producing assets from a large and well-diversified portfolio. There's no reason why not, IMHO.
DYOR, etc :o)
soul traders
- 07 Apr 2006 13:09
- 406 of 567
Actually Gerry, it was JKX I had in mind when writing my last post. I think NOP could very well do a good impersonation of JKX and maybe even outstrip it. I missed out on JKX too though! My other tip for anybody who likes a decent-sized E&P portfolio in an undervalued company is Black Rock Oil & Gas (BLR). It might not be for the faint-hearted or widows and orphans though!!
I too am heavily concentrated on the oil & gas sector, plus a few plays in mining. I know that like you mentioned, some would criticise this as being insufficiently diversified HOWEVER with emerging E&P's you have a lot of potential upside, plus the market is easy to keep track of because they publish commodity prices every day, and you know they can sell their product. I mean, where else can you go to find a company in which you know with reasonable certainty how much their product is worth at any given moment AND that they can sell it without getting landed with returns/duds/stuff nobody likes that they have to dispose of at a massive discount? For me that's worth a lot more than diversifying my plays on the High Street or into other, more risky, small-cap sectors where you have less of an overview. Particularly when you live in Germany and can't go and visit Woolies or Dixons to see how they're getting along.
I'm open to contrary views, of course, but feel at the moment I have developed a good understanding of - and confidence in - a sector in which profits are there for the taking.
austing2253
- 07 Apr 2006 13:23
- 407 of 567
I wholeheartedly agree with you. Whatever I invest is a gamble and gives more thrills per buck than FTSE 100. The profits are certainly there for the taking, and where can you find quick returns like we've had with NOP on the FTSE? All the best with yours and talk with you again.
barclay
- 12 Apr 2006 16:51
- 410 of 567
Anyone have any idea what the recent rise is for? There is no news out today, but
something tells me were heading for 200p and over very shortly!
We've beat our recent high Soul Traders, good luck everybody!
Barclay
myownmoney
- 12 Apr 2006 17:01
- 411 of 567
I hope my pacemaker keeps up with this rise. :-)
myownmoney
- 13 Apr 2006 22:58
- 414 of 567
Soul trader, I agree what a lovely stock, it helps the pension a bit...
Be nice to see some news though.
Makepeace
- 19 Apr 2006 11:42
- 416 of 567
Has anyone any idea on all the sells today??? Or is this just profit taking.
hlyeo98
- 19 Apr 2006 12:16
- 417 of 567
It is profit taking...NOP has more upside
barclay
- 23 Apr 2006 17:25
- 421 of 567
I'd just like to say guys that Northern's net asset value of 360p is based on oil at 40 dollars a barrel; the current price is nearly twice that and rising!
When we start production this year or early next year, the shares will get valued on
the price earnings ratio for that sector, based on spot oil prices, which nearly every anaylst agrees won't go back down to 40 dollars again: because of the scarcity of oil.
The current price dip doesn't worry me one bit: i have bought the most liquid asset in the world at 100 per cent discount to net asset value - even at the very conservative 40 dollars a barrel estimate.
barclay
soul traders
- 24 Apr 2006 11:56
- 422 of 567
Great post, Barclay - I'm not sure how NAV will translate into P/E as obviously it depends on the amount of production involved, but I agree that the higher resources prices will drive profits higher, and that clearly the sensible, conservative figures used in NOP's feasibility study are going to be far outstripped by the spot prices in the real world, at least for the near future.
Don't forget that much of the Dutch stuff in the near future is going to be gas-to-electricity. Naturally this is expected to be very profitable - indeed, it is an ideal situation as NOP and its JV partner will have a more vertically-integrated business with fewer middlemen, but it is the price of electricity at the wall socket in Holland, that will dictate revenue rates for the G2E project and not the price of crude. Just an observation - in the end, though, it should still all mean higher profits at the end of the day.
The bottom line? NOP is still a great buy, IMVHO. DYOR, etc.
barclay
- 26 Apr 2006 04:51
- 424 of 567
Great news about Credit Suisse: it gives us a vote of confidence.
You are absolutely right about the gas thing soul trader, the gas totally outweighs the oil bit, but what i meant to say was 19 million 2p barrels of oil in the dutch portfolio doesn't seem like a lot, but when you do the maths, at say a conservative 40 dollars a barrel *19 million barrels: it works out at circa 800 million dollars!
This of which is discounted over so many years and costs deducted of course which if it was say 650 million would still leave 150 million dollars left - 85 to 90 million pounds, around what our current market cap is.
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in my view this on its own, without the gas probably supports the share price of today - even without the oil and gas at papekop.
barclay