any one got a feelling in their water how far LLoyds will go looking to to buy but just dont know when they are low enough

hangon, I believe you have to be looking at a 2yr period before any stability returns to the financial stocks. Then and only then do I believe that a significant return will be seen. How much that will be I would not like to guess.
Lloyds have a good business model compared to most that was destroyed by the unbelievable purchase. I honestly believe they will get through this and be stronger for it with a massive share of the market. However that's only my opinion.

i think somebody is shorting Lloyds again

goes up all the way on one day, comes down again on the next day. doesn't make much sense apart from shortselling, especially when RBS & Barclays are going up. HSBC has a reason to go down as they have heavily underpriced new shares.

The problem is that the mm's and so called professionals have as much idea to the value as us, we are into the unknown now. For what it is worth I believe the board of lloy have overstated / been ultra cautious re writedowns and will now make large cost savings going forward.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=aqbWhdY5lwV0&refer=uk
Nice work if you can get it

He who holds all the gold makes all the rules goes the old addage. MM's hold all the gold and they seem to do whatever they want despite volume or any other factor you wish to add in. Just look at the volumes and if you can make it out you are a better person than me!

dp
didnt you forget or omit something in your sort of old addage of an old quote? i.e Gunga Din?
or am i being too un political in my observation? oh well. maybe you are too young?
maybe not. no offence intended to anyone, it simply is as is, an observation of an old addage.
regards
jkd

Sorry to be pedantic, but all adages are old.

whats going on with lloy?

UBS yesterday had a Reiteration of there buy with 100p price target, could be others to follow. Would expect a good take up of the RI, maybe some large institutions have indicated a full take up. I don't know but thats what I would expect.

Look Chap, These babies are almost worthless. They are a sort of fools gold. They have blown everything buying HBOS. Talk to anyone in the banking business and they will tell you.
The market makers will create more up days to lure in the punters but the SP should really be 10p or less .... almost worthless. 1 you must be kidding....

And another thing how many "institutions" and pension funds hold Lloyds? Hardly any... no fund manager in his right mind would hold these.

At least Hornby's got the elbow, that's saved 60k/month

LLOY has been doing pretty well over the last week. Do people think it will fall again or is it onwards and upwards from now on?

must top out soon - the charts show strong sell offs after strong rises. Traders share imho

always follows barclays...should see 100p+ next week

Are LLOY going to have a rights issue?

I spoke to Lloyds share dealing today, I was advised that details of rights issue will be posted end of April.

Looking like they will have no difficulty raising the 4bn to pay off the government pref shares. Not even out of the question that the new B shares might be compulsorily converted to ordinaries in the next few months if current trend continues.

will the rights issue cause the SP to drop for a short while? want to top up but if the SP drops due to dilution then will wait. [only ask cause dont know how the diff type of shares A/B will affect dilution]