Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Mmm, she doesn't look overworked.....yet!

al- at my friends school they get 30 mins break, there so called benefits of holidays are half spent working (wheres the benfit?)

''The real truth is that they have to work from 9 till 3.'' why are my friends in at 8 am then and leave at 5-6 having a chat???

You say they have free bree breaks, my friends (they have extra responibilies) spend most of there free breaks in classrooms supporting other teachers with discipline problems adding to their levels. I often ask parents what its like looking after there 2 0r 3 kids, they say a nightmare, well image looking after 33 13 years olds in todays society.

One runs a football team on top of of everything else (he is not a sports teacher). The arrangements, getting the team together, ref, parents aggro, i often wonder why he does it. Half term just gone he had year 11's in to finsh there gcse course work and is doing the same the next 2 saturdays. They run school trips, one took 50 kids to the formula 1 british grand prix last year for 2 days which inc staying in a hotel. He had to sit up until 4 in the am making sure the kids stayed in thier rooms. Another does the duke of edinburghs awards, weekends away.

Realise you are not having a go at teachers but i hope i have put foward some things you didnt realise. I agree their lots of 9-3.30 teachers they are usually not that good ones. The ones i have talked about work much much much longer, do much more, under incredible stress that you have tried to make out.

I'm someone who works/manages in the building industry, work all day, have fewer holidays, and some days are stressfull, earn more than teachers but most days are a doddle.

Not arguing the case at all, kivver.
I work in the financial industry and as you may guess from my posts I am in fromt of my computer from about 7am till about 11pm. Not all of this time is spent working as much of my work is done in the evenings.
I earn extremely well from this and I am not complaining, as, with my board, we have built a very succesful and lucrative business.
When I worked for others, i put in the same effort, as did most of those around me. Teachers are not a special case. The good ones will be rewarded with promotion.
Once when I was unable to do very much due to illness, a few years ago, I set myself the task of how I would reform education to the benefit of all, as an intellectual exercise.
I started from the premise that pupils did need regular breaks and 13 weeks was justified on that basis. I did much research on how i would rework it all and came up with a system that would give teachers a guaranteed 40 hour week, with absolutely no extra duties, a full day every week dedicated to marking and prep and would have the knock on effect of allowing parents to rosta the 13 weeks their children had off, to co-incide with work commitments, thereby reducing the astronomical cost of holidays out of term time, allowing teachers to take 2 weeks when they wished to take them, increasing teachers salaries by almost a quarter and either reducing class sizes or the education budget.
I offered this to the teaching staff within my family, expecting them to pull it to pieces as unworkable. the response was always the same. possible but the unions would never accept it due to the reduction in time off and the fixed hours. I also sent it to my MP who was impressed but argued that getting up the noses of the teaching unions was politically suicidal!!
my views have been a little jaundiced ever since.
As an interesting aside, two lecturers within my family considered that the bulk of it applied in their chosen arena anyway.
Alan

d'ya you two fancy keeping the debate off thread, please. you're getting in the way of jimmy's pics which are far more interesting.
thanks
perv of bolton ;)

Now she was a teacher who could have any conditions and salary she wanted.
Alan

my friends never talk about wanting more money, only that the breaks (in which half of it spent working) is essential, because of the stress. If we could get back to the old days of corporal punishment or the very least parents backing teachers judgements where there is at least a threat or a warning for kids behaviour/attitude to work we might get somewhere. Kids now come to lessons with thier mp3 players, mobile phones, hand held computer games etc etc how do teachers compete with that??

good point bos , actually my girlfriend is a teacher ,,teaching A level Media ,i get her to dress up like a Cynthia type and boss me around some evenings , now i used to have to pay 200 for that in Soho.

Shes stopped charging me,as well, jimmy.
;-)
Alan

No Al, i think she agreed with H that money was just going round in circles, so she stopped charging you.

:-)))

does girlsfriends bum look big in this???

http://www.office-humour.co.uk/content/files/mpe/big-butt.mpe

Have a good weekend Chaps ..

yissssss ....... work over!!!!

Going up market tonight...........
Pizza Hut, here we come......................

Seeing Stomp tomorrow, saw the blue man group (show) last week excellent.

They're quality hallucegenics you're taking Driver.
Do you market them?

No just pay expensive prices to go and see them having said that we are paying 10 each to see Stomp you cant complain about that.

I can't believe how a night can spiral out of control. There I am with the wife and kids at the Pizza Hut.
Everything going well. The waiter comes over and asks if everything is Okay.
I say "Can I embugger you for a bottle of beer?". Waiter runs off shouting for the manager, big stroppy bloke at the table next to us suddenly turns violent towrads me and starts ranting on about rent boys, then the manager comes over and kicks us out saying we're banned for life!!!
I only wanted a beer!

should have said bovvered not be buggered!

photofit pic of one of the bank robbers.

lemme know when you stop pissing yerself!!!