There is a really good tech team here, lets give them some ideas for enhancements or to cure any bugs we find.

Ashley,

I think back to when the BB's were fun and educational places to be, and to be honest we were in the bull market then. This bear market is a killer, and interest in stocks and shares is currently very low.

Some have sufferered real pain, IMHO, and that explains some of the behaviour on some threads, I think.

To be fair, AM is new, and there is surely a honeymoon period to give them time to improve the site?

Again, discussion on equities is Very low on all BB's at the moment, down to most of them falling in value I guess. I noticed a difference on iii when TAD had a good run, some old faces came out of the woodwork, number of posts noticeably rose, but have vanished now that the price has fallen back.

The cameraderie from 2 years ago just isn't around at the moment, but would return, I'm sure, if/when the market turns around again.

I agree that the Trader's Room has less posts than I would like, and hope that it will improve with time.

It's been a long night, so off home now!

Andy.

Do i take it, that i have to pay ,just to use the 'Trader's BB'..??

alecm,

Yes, to use the Traders' Room, you need to become a paid subscriber. The Traders' Room is available at all paid levels, including the 5/month one.

J.

??? is'nt that a bit strange.? surely if you were going to charge for something , then it would be 'real-time' prices, not the use of a BB..?? this BB is a dead loss at the moment, virtually un-used, (but that is down to site being new.)

Hmmm have to have a think about this now....

Dont mind paying for services, (as i do on ADVFN already,) but to pay just to use a BB..??

Think i will look again in a month or two....

alecm,

In the Traders' Room, there are regular indepth discussions on stocks and shares, and of course there is Croc's Legendary Traders Thread.

On a facilities basis, for 5 a month, you get our Alerts service, which sends emails when prices hit your criteria, Market Scan 2, and the ability to read and post onto the Traders' BB. Not a bad deal at all :)

J.

Tullettj, i already get alerts etc, free from my broker (Which go to my Mobile), i know what you are saying about the discussion, it should be of a high standard, but a high %age of the posters on there, post very similar stuff on ADVFN, but i did not need to tell you that , did i..?

IMO, to compete in a market, you need to better your oposition, and indeed i think you may well do in the long run, but at this present time, i myself cannot see the need to pay for the same thing twice...

IMO, you will have substancially more down time in the next few months than the 'other' site, this is because your site is so new , and things will appear, it is unnavoidable, indeed you were down yesterday, so at this moment in time i need the 'other' site.....

Wish you all the best.....

Alec....

P.S

You will get there, of that i am certain, wish you good luck......

Who knows, i may subscribe earlier than i think, but will just watch for now....

.

Ashley, so not all is as it seems in there then..???

What do they prefer chatting about then..?

alecm,

Actually, site site was not down yesterday, there was a glitch with streaming for a while (but the site remained up, but upon roll back to the non port80 fixed version, all was fine. It appears that some web-caches (otherwise known as transparent proxies) at companies like NTL, Blueyonder etc etc cached the downsite page, and would not refresh to get the fully functioning website.

I have put in place code to stop this happening in future as it was infuriating for us and misleading to our customers!

As for more downtime, yes, there will be more *scheduled* downtime while we put in place more services, and increase our resiliance and redundancy, but as for unscheduled downtime, I hope the team at MoneyAM have learned from all the design and setup mistakes that ADVFN made and wont repeat them here...

I guess only time will tell...

J.

ps: Scheduled downtime will always to out of market hours!

.

Tullettj, all i was getting was a big blue screen with your logo on it saying site is getting maintenance, try again shortly.....

Just had a look at the titles on the 'Traders Thread' out of the first 45 threads, about five were directly aimed at a specific stock....(now where have i seen that before..??? (PBB) ADVFN..?? and i certainly would not pay to use that....

Cheers Ashley, so i takr it , it is not good.....

Money am, think this is going to be a problem, hope you sort it soon.....

Mr Ashley James,

Can you please point out to me, either on here or in mail: jonathan@moneyam.com where all these personal attacks are happening.

Obviously, if this is the case, then action will be taken.

Thanks,

J.

alecm,

The blue screen was due to the caching issue and was totally out of our control.

I have now put in place code to stop that happening again...

J.

Alec,

Well it has done me a favour, it has put me off BBs anyway.

Shares Talk content 1/100, which is a surprise because I thought Shares Magazine were going to inject some content.

Also normal us and them trader/investor divisions which are so mutually destructive, especially noting ADVFN PBB has died, and most ADVFN posters now just post on FBB Day, Shorters and Minters Threads.

The days of a BB being for research seemed to have flown straight past AM's business plan, more a huddled club of traders looking for mutual support.

I think we have to accept that there really are not enough people left who even consider investing or trading in equities is worth while to support three main websites ADVFN, AM and III.

I think people will pay for content and functionality, in the absence of either I am not sure what they are expected to pay for.

Even FTSE 100 feed is 15 minutes delayed-pathetic or what?

Cheers

Ash

Tullettj, that is exactly what i am saying, things beyond your control...You cant account for these, that is why i am waiting, i cant see the logic to paying for something that is not proven....i am not saying that i do not like your product, quite the contrary, it is the case that it is not 'safe', if you know what i mean...

As for the 'Traders' BB, think i can live without a second PBB to be fair i wish it was like the FBB but without the idiots.......

What about offering something like a 'X' amount, day trial, as an offer, so that people can make their own minds up, have a look at the new things they will get , just so they know, just limit it to one trial per person, even do it for a couple of hours.....

Did'nt the price of Level 2 drop a while back..? i stand to be corrected on that , but your prices seem to mirror the 'other' site, but for lot less product (at the moment).

Alec...

alecm,

We are not currently offering Level2, nor do we have prices for that product displayed anywhere...?

J.

Johnathan,

I have sent Mike Boydell your Managing Director at least four emails in the last 48 hours, plus several others over the first two months but it appears that due to a long standing friendship with a Mr Johnathan Simms alias Dead Cat Bounce, also a close personal friend of Clem Chambers he does not want to deal with it.

Clem's posts on ADVFN PBB have a certain logic, We have our own secret weapon Ashley James, meaning if we send the boys round to MoneyAM, afterall they have left the door wide open, and they attack and harrass AJ, he will react, the traders will then return to the fold appalled by the ensuing commentry, he was indeed entirely correct with his strategy, AJ will react after six weeks of provocation, being called a lier, having his integrity questioned.

The bottom line, if you are a cronie of Mike Boydell, is that you can post what you want, however abusive, however if you are an outsider on the receiving end, forget it, the clique will win against anyone from the outside world.

In fact please do not post on shares or spend time injecting content, MoneyAM want an exclusive club, exclusive that is to anyone not in the inner circle, or whom is not a fully fledged GNI Day Trader.

There are only so many times you can ignore impartial policing of BBs when you have sold a monitored BB policy to the outside world.

Really, at this stage of the proceedings, to say I was not impressed would be being kind.

Cheers

Ashley

Ash, that has always amazed me, you can get any feed APART from FTSE for free...that still gets me smiling, but the FTSE feed from the LSE, still has to be paid for by some one, and it aint cheap......

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/distributors/realtime.asp

i looked into it for someone, who is setting up YET another of these sites, with an American backer, dont think it will be long until that one appears either....


There aint enough people to go around (ADVFN,III,am).? i totally agree, that is why i am a bit suprised that am is charging people to use a BB...

Lets look at it another way, ADVFN charge for PBB, now totally useless and un-used, III in the same boat, anyone see a pattern forming..??? AM, why is yours going to be so different..?? i cant see it....