Greyhound
- 14 May 2007 08:25
Sharp rise this morning in this Chinese oil refinery company. Tipped over the weekend in Small Company Share Watch to be the next ReneSola. Changes in the way pricing operates since China joined WTO is set to change the company dramatically, plus results in the coming weeks could surprise on the upside.
www.haikechemical.com
Quarter 1 update
First Quarter 2007 Highlights
- Total revenues increased by 28% to US$ (or '$') 73.9m (2006Q1: $57.9m)
- Petrochemical revenues increased by 15% to $56.1m (2006Q1: $48.6m)
- Speciality chemical revenues increased by 87% to $17.0m (2006Q1: $9.1m)
- Biochemical revenues increased by 300% to $0.8m (2006Q1: $0.2m)
- Gross margin improved to 12.1% (2006Q1: 7.2%) to $8.9m (2006Q1: $4.1m)
- Net profit after tax increased by 625% to $5.8m (2006Q1: $0.8m)
- Net profit (after minority interests) increased by 650% to $4.5m
(2006Q1: $0.6m)
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Greyhound
- 01 Jun 2007 11:27
- 54 of 180
Out of curiosity cynic why do you put SOLA ahead of HAIK? Fully aware Sola have the ability to expand capacity rapidly versus HaiKe, however HaiKe have high barriers to entry with expected very low PE in 2008. I'm long both incidentally.
cynic
- 01 Jun 2007 11:30
- 55 of 180
probably only because I rather like SOLA's product/sector and I have managed to make some decent money from it both as a bull and a bear!
canada1
- 01 Jun 2007 15:27
- 58 of 180
Contract cancelled, soul. Just got back from lunch at the beach, got sh*t on by a seagull the size of a Giant Condor, so looking good for next week!, I see you've sold zoo, (thanks).
halifax
- 01 Jun 2007 16:28
- 60 of 180
Which begs the question was Mr Wong right?
hlyeo98
- 01 Jun 2007 18:51
- 61 of 180
Mr Wong would not sell if he thinks HAIK would continue to rise.
ptholden
- 01 Jun 2007 19:11
- 62 of 180
You know him personally then?
What a stupid comment!
hlyeo98
- 01 Jun 2007 19:20
- 63 of 180
Of course, he's my cousin, dickhead
ptholden
- 01 Jun 2007 20:12
- 66 of 180
hlyeo, you have a genius for posting short sweeping statements across the whole of this BB, normally after the move has already taken place. I've lost count of how many times other posters have commented to me what a waste of space you are.
st. Exactly right.
cynic
- 01 Jun 2007 20:24
- 67 of 180
in some ways i find it worrying that despite the fallout on the Chinese market, with it being quite likely that there is more to come, that the likes of SOLA, HAIK and WCC have held up very well ..... is this a sign of strength or mere indian rope trick?
steveo
- 02 Jun 2007 22:46
- 68 of 180
lets not forget these stocks are on a different exchange under different rules, and are not the subject of widespread speculative trading by complete novices as in china share frenzy, so I don't see there being any reason why these shares should suffer the same % falls as the chinese listed stocks might (or should I say will). presumably they are not being overbought to anything like the same degree, latest figures have china index on p/e of 40+, whats this? alot less..
steveo
- 02 Jun 2007 22:51
- 69 of 180
Aso re comments about Greenspan a week ago, he is now looking a bit of a fool for dropping US interest rates so far for so long, created a lovely bubble. So he's certainly not infallible.
cynic
- 03 Jun 2007 09:18
- 70 of 180
may be on a different exchange but not on a different planet! ...... an article well worth reading in today's Sunday Times biz section - "Briton curbs China bosses".
It's a long article, but a small extract is below ......
".... this year's bubble in the Chinese stock markets could set off a chain of consequences for global investors. Undoubtedly there is going to be a huge correction at some point. It builds up like snow on a mountain."
That does not of course mean all will come tumbling tomorrow or even during the remainder of 2007, but the odds and timiing must surely be ever shorter.
steveo
- 03 Jun 2007 14:34
- 71 of 180
Granted in any correction there are drops across the board, just saying I wouldn't expect the correction for HAIK to be as significant as China A and B shares.
Note though the article states "could".. there are other brokers stating that the global % in china is still not significant to upset rest of world too much, more concerning is USA, feb correction was a culmination of China and US sub-prime fears climaxing together. Since then there has been conflicting data suggesting US may not be sruggling as much as feared (also plenty saying it is), although it probably won't be long until the next data suggest otherwise and we all end up scratching our heads again!!! Truth is no one knows, ever changing hence it's attraction to the likes of us.
Your words of caution are wise, question is do you want to miss the subsequent rises waiting for something that may not happen for a while. My solution is to sell original stakes while building up equity from the profits, if it falls its in for free, will hopefully get more when it comes back up.
cynic
- 03 Jun 2007 16:40
- 72 of 180
my portfolio is currently "full" and as i am going on hol in a couple of weeks and as i shall not be able to watch throughout the day as i do at the office, i shall assuredly be taking some money off the table.
i don't currently hold HAIK (did a few months back) but looking at the chart, albeit that it is such a new flotation, its value is limited, sp looks to have got too far ahead of itself ...... a correction back to about 160 (25 dma) is easily possible, even without any general market fallout
Greyhound
- 03 Jun 2007 22:01
- 73 of 180
Interesting comments today and also in the Sunday Times article which is good to reflect on. Whilst corrections in HAIK shouldn't be ruled out at any time and we're likely to see 10/20% rises and falls or more, I'm not so sure I agree that we'll head back to 160. I'm more of the opinion that we're likely to see something in the region of 200/250p and then consolidation holding around 2 initially. The reason being is that we're more likely to see good news coming out of HAIK, be it expansion on target or ahead of target, sales increasing, changes to domestic pricing, rapid progression on the chemicals side. Supporting all this is a low PE for 2008 which irrespective of moving averages, RSI etc. still makes this look very cheap.