markymar
- 15 Aug 2005 15:14
http://www.falklands-oil.com/
http://www.rockhopperexploration.co.uk
http://www.argosresources.com/


Rockhopper was established in 2004 with a strategy to invest in and undertake an offshore oil exploration programme in the North Falkland Basin. It was floated on AIM in August 2005. Rockhopper was the first company to make a commercial oil discovery in the Falklands. Today Rockhopper is the largest acreage holder in the North Falkland Basin, with interests in the Greater Mediterranean region.
chav
- 15 Dec 2011 16:10
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Pros rumour came from the Times waffling.
It's impossible for RKH to get the Oil out of the ground without some form of dilution so fail to see how any shareholders would be surprised when it comes...whatever form. At the end of the day you have to work out the value of 500mmbbls Oil at Brent prices and work that into the sp at various sized share base...JV is going to take at least 50% presumably?
Balerboy
- 15 Dec 2011 18:20
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Probably about 5yrs to do anything.,.
Proselenes
- 16 Dec 2011 00:43
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mnamreh, it does happen.
However RKH is not illiquid and at this stage there would be no chance of a placing at higher than the current SP, IMO.
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PS - The thing I love about bulletin boards is :
Post negatively about a stock nobody holds - nobody cares.
Post positively about a stock nobody holds - you are a ramper.
Post negatively about a stock someone holds - you are a deramper
Post positive about a stock someone holds - you are a genius and oracle of knowledge
I love it :)
mnamreh
- 16 Dec 2011 07:03
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markymar
- 16 Dec 2011 12:49
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Proselenes
- 20 Dec 2011 12:07
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Drifting downwards as I said it would.
The excitement is all over now, and like XEL this should drift downwards and funding or farmout dilution becomes the key mover going forward.
For excitement now its over to BOR and FOGL in the new year.
avsec
- 20 Dec 2011 22:27
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Not often right Pro - but wrong again! Promise you'll buck up!
Proselenes
- 21 Dec 2011 04:30
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avsec, there is only one thing ahead now for RKH, and for the first time in a long time its not exploration.
Its now dilution, by either raising funds or farming out.
Whichever way those price targets are going to get slashed, if its a 50% farm out then its 50% off of those price targets. If its a 100% dilution then its 50% off of those price targets.
Whichever way, that is the only thing going to be driving the price now - the funding/farm out issues.
greekman
- 21 Dec 2011 07:25
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Proselenes,
You say, 'Its now dilution, by either raising funds or farming out'.
I can never understand the sense of anyone looking at so called dilution in the way you do.
Dilution for no monetary value, IE an addition of shares in issue which bring no benefit of cash or equity by way of shared benefit is usually of no benefit to the company, unless its by way of a share issue in place of other monetary reward such as in place of remuneration.
Any issue of further shares in Rockhoppers case will be for reasons to benefit the company and therefore the shareholders.
You have to consider what any fund raising or farm out will bring to the value of Rockhopper.
If it will bring a benefit, then that is all that matters.
If the value of the company stays either on par to pre issue, or such issue increases the net company value, then no dilution has taken place because although the number of shares in issue increases, so would the net value of the company.
If on the other hand the whole becomes less pro rata, then I agree the value of the company would be diluted.
I very rarely answer your posts, because although you don't post with either malice or disrespect (not that I have seen), I do often find it difficult to take most of your posts seriously. Example from your last post...........why should a funding/farm out issue not bring value to Rockhopper?
Regards Greek.
Proselenes
- 21 Dec 2011 07:50
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greek, it does bring value...... not arguing there. My point is that the brokers target prices are presently ignoring this dilution.
So whilst it brings value, it will as I said bring price targets tumbling down.
greekman
- 21 Dec 2011 10:00
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Proseleness,
I stand by my last post.
If a company tie-up or a fund raising brings value then there is no dilution (of value).
What will always value a share, in the long term is the net value of the company, so I still can't see why this should bring the sp down.
By your argument, any tie-up of companies or/and issue of additional equity would be a cause for a companies sp to loose value.
The main reason the sp is playing the up/down game at the moment is the still very small risk that things are not quite as good as they appear, but mainly down to those who day trade and of course the lack of confidence in the markets as a whole.
As we could go round in circles re this, I feel we will have to agree to disagree.
Greek.
cynic
- 21 Dec 2011 10:41
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i stand with you greek ..... if RKH bring in another, or just a huge slab of cash/shares, that is only to enhance and realise the oil that is already known to be in place ..... thus the dilution is beneficial unlike when a company has to be bailed out
greekman
- 21 Dec 2011 10:52
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Cheers Cynic.
halifax
- 21 Dec 2011 12:43
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first oil in 2016 at the earliest that is the problem with the sp
aldwickk
- 21 Dec 2011 12:51
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Unless there is a bid in the mean time
greekman
- 21 Dec 2011 15:54
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Due to the Argentinian problem, small though it may be, it cant be ignored, I would love to see Rockhopper either sell the oil already discovered in ground, or tie in with an influential partner with plenty of clout.
Exxon Mobil would be a great tie in, as it would bring the USA into any equation over territorial rights, or how about the Chinese oil companies.
The Chinese National Offshore Oil Corp, Petrochina ADR, Sinopec ADR, CNOOC ADR or Sinochem.
Sinochem already has a huge interest in the Brazilian fields of Repsol.
Just imagine Argentina trying their fun and games with China.
A hardly diplomatic Bu**er off would quickly follow.
In the past I have mentioned the threat of Argentina to our investment in the Falklands and been shot down with constant comments of scare mongering and de-ramping.
Whilst I still feel that these threats will come to little more than trumpet blowing, it will be fact that the more successful Rockhopper are, the more the chances of the sabre rattling will turn to possible action.
Many recent wars have been and are being fought over oil. I would not like to see a repeat in the Falklands for many reasons.
To bury our heads in the sand, hopping the threat will go away is courting disaster.
Saying that, I can see the worse scenario being a deal (bribe) to Argentine of a percentage of the tax profits. That with the opening of Argentinian waters would make life easier for all. Not an outcome I wish for, but it may be the deal the UK end up going for.
halifax
- 21 Dec 2011 16:16
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greek have a lie down with a christmas drink...chill..
greekman
- 21 Dec 2011 16:23
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Hi Halifax,
I am quite chilled, I usually am if I can't effect events.
It just annoys me sometimes when people just can't see, or do not wish to see a problem just because they don't like anything that may adversely effect an investment.
As to drinking, I have a very low tolerance to alcohol, so its probably better if I do lie down before drinking.
Cheers anyway.
Greek.