Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

if you wanted to have a cheery start to 2017, then i recommend you don't watch the above (unless you fancy agnes poirier)
...... however, it was certainly very interesting

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/01/jean-claude-juncker-blocked-eu-curbs-on-tax-avoidance-cables-show#img-1

Jean-Claude Juncker blocked EU curbs on tax avoidance, cables show
Leaked papers reveal that as Luxembourg’s PM, the European commission president obstructed the bloc’s tax reforms efforts

Dil,

A welcoming party for the New Year.

Hey cheer up Fred , new high's again on FTSE and the TUC coming out and saying its members voted for no freedom of movement so deliver on it.

Come and join us Fred you know you want to.

Dil,

I beginning to think of you as one of Nigel's lemmings.

I hope you have a parachute.

i must be in the wrong time warp or something, as i continue to see gloom ahead, though the markets tell me completely the opposite

There is no gloom at all, cynic. Cheer up! It's 2017.
President Trump will boost global economy.

i can't read you body language, so not sure whether you actually believe that

cynic "i must be in the wrong time warp or something"

No you've just got your head stuck up your backside..


little fred "I beginning to think of you as one of Nigels's lemmings"


Well better to be a Nigel lemming then a corbyn lemming.....

Or even(heaven forbid) a little timmy farron lemming!!..

Wait until the cost of imports kick in.

In 2014 the United Kingdom imported $663B, making it the 5th largest importer in the world. During the last five years the imports of the United Kingdom have increased at an annualized rate of 6.2%, from $490B in 2009 to $663B in 2014.

Wait and see the cost of living increases and "food imports" rise.

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Could be wrong, but I wonder.

Also, if fast Brexit is attempted the effect of such on the "hard working "middle classes" will be interesting.

Top diplomat to the EU resigns

You open your mouth too WIDE
now you pay the consequences
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Brexit: UK's top EU diplomat Sir Ivan Rogers resigns

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38498839

Happy New Year.

Good news about Manufacturing. Got to take the positives.

Even better news about remoaner Sir Ivan leaving.

Get a fresh face in with no baggage.

re - Ivan - resigned

'muddled losing brain' is what he got and can not get over like a couple over here

no much point in having the "Barsteward" still on the post after being on the wrong side.

Exposed the Barsteward with a pic with the other loser

re - Ivan - resigned

He was the main negotiator in the EU before the Referendum and got nothing for the UK and that is why Cameron had to do the referendum

He fought like a mouse to get us diddley squat, and succeeded.
2517

Ivan

Adios
Auf Weidersehen
Au Revoir

Goodbye if your interested in the British term.

Or just F.O is quite appropriate to a weak brainwashed europhiliac brown
noser...

"Ivan, you are looking a bit scruffy and so, after doing your Bresignation, do up your tie and give your hair a bit of a comb."

Andrea Leadsom says, that after Brexit:

1. The '90,000 Seasonal EU Berry Pickers' will still be able to come over and help our farmers.
2. The farmers will still be OK for getting the temporary seasonal staff from the EU as before and as above.
3. Our 40,000 farmers will be able to grow what they want and won't have to abide by the EU rule which says they must go at least 3 Crops per year.
4. Neither will the farmers have to display billboards showing they get EU subsidy.

She reminds how dealing with Brussels "red tape" and farm inspections is estimated to cost £5 million a year to the industry and takes up 300,000 hours, as she declared slashing EU regulations will free up farmers to grow more food.

Unfortunately, she does get slammed for her comments being a bit ill-considered and too much like head-lines.

More at: http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/750115/Brexit-Environment-Secretary-Andrea-Leadsom-UK-farmers-EU-migrant-labour-seasonal-workers