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Earthport: Ready to fly (EPO)     

jdubb - 04 Mar 2004 17:44

Some good news at last from this weeks Shares mag. Tim Freeborn revisits the company and altho no firm details are given about new deals he says they will be announced this quarter. I would think that this could be at the same time as the interim results are announced. I for one will be holding on cos they will fly sooner rather than later! ( 8.30% up today!)

draw?epic=EPO

bosley - 24 Nov 2004 15:39 - 644 of 706

got out a long while ago . well done to those who got in at the bottom,.

Dynamite - 24 Nov 2004 16:38 - 645 of 706

Well done to all of you who stuck with it, I sold out two weeks ago and bought PDX again so no complaints. Hope it gets better and better for you.

Realistic - 24 Nov 2004 16:50 - 646 of 706

The news is only just out and already a massive hike in the sp today. Large buying vols so all the penny share tipsters will be filling their boots.When joe public get to hear about this from the papers and tipsheets the price may be 5-10p.

apple - 24 Nov 2004 16:58 - 647 of 706

Realistic

5-10p doesn't sound Realistic!

EWRobson - 24 Nov 2004 17:38 - 648 of 706

Its a couple of million smackers! No licence revenue until well down the road but the key thing is that there is cash to see the company through to the upgraded systems and it also looks like a good new application area. Out of the share (can't be everywhere) and have been busy decorating son's new home so missed the immediate buying opportunity. Will take a view tomorrow depending on trading. Congrats to the faithful! What's the view from The Magpie, Jonny?

Eric

dynamicsoul - 24 Nov 2004 18:52 - 649 of 706

the view is it has seen the bottom and there is only upside from here on.

yes this rise may go too far too fast, but when the dust settles there will be more good moves in store.

jonny wilkinson - 24 Nov 2004 21:38 - 650 of 706

EWRobson - 24 Nov'04 - 17:38 - 647 of 648

Can you confirm licence fee is payable up front, do you know anything about The Global Invoice Corporation Ltd, check latest accounts and balance sheet, when you do tell me where the money is to pay upfront 2m licence fee, maybe i need a crash course to teach me the art of creative accounting.

teletigger - 25 Nov 2004 08:31 - 651 of 706

A little reminder there of who's really in charge of the stock market.
regards

paul30661 - 25 Nov 2004 08:35 - 652 of 706

Haven't followed this up properly, but isn't it a little odd that a Board Director quits less than a week before an (apparently) significant contract win? Or was this related to the Baltimore court case or something else entirely?

Otherwise, how many people on here are just looking to recoup their losses before heading for the exit ??

rmk - 25 Nov 2004 19:22 - 653 of 706

16.54 An interesting end to the day and somebody knows something. Will look forward to see what is announced tomorrow. Aroma.

EWRobson - 26 Nov 2004 08:58 - 654 of 706

jw deserves response to his questions. Info. please on Global Invoice Corporation. RNS reads more credibly than previous effort. Oxford Consulting man at head. Financial Analysts as co-signatories. Short implementation period, apparently by end-December, so not long to wait. We know that strength of earthport is in their IT systems and links to financial institutions so appears credible. Good to put this one to bed.

Eric

astonvilla - 26 Nov 2004 10:09 - 655 of 706

surely all we can hope for is contract wins and then pray they come to fruition. Well I do as i am not selling or topping up as I have said previous I hold 440k averaged at 3.25p approx. Have to be honest I am not even doing any research anymore on EPO as I will risk the downside. Is anyone going to the AGM?

jonny wilkinson - 26 Nov 2004 19:47 - 656 of 706

EWRobson - 26 Nov'04 - 08:58 - 653 of 654

Thanks for your response.

I suppose time will prove one of us being right, however i have genuine concerns about what this partner can deliver including upfront payment, quite simply when one looks at this companies balance sheet it does not strike me they can deliver numbers mentioned in RNS but stress only my personal opinion.

ssanebs - 05 Dec 2004 16:04 - 657 of 706

After having spoken to a colleague who had spoken to epo they say that global invoyce corp already have 20 clients currently, also the statement made clearly states that epo will EARN a one off licence fee of 1.9m, and not be paid up front. So the the first 1.9m will go to epo and then it will be on a 50% basis. Epo say they have trialled the invoicing system themselves and it works well. So again no upfront money and hoping on the success of electronic invoicing which is requied in Europe, but not law in the uk. But with invices required to be kept for 6 years it is a nightmare to store and gain quick access.Mr Binnie is just a one man band, not able to find any history on him, but sounds genuine. I tried to speak to him and he said he could not without Rc being with him, so at least he has some ethics.

EWRobson - 05 Dec 2004 17:18 - 658 of 706

ssanebs

Good post! Keep us posted, please.

Good in that supports the genuineness of the situation: Binnie is real; the contract is clearly real; there are actual customers. Not so good is that there is no significant impact on cash flow. The RNS states: "... will earn a once only licence fee of 1,992,000". This is not inconsistent with the post but it ahs been written, I suspect, to give the idea of money up-front.

Can you shed any more light on the inter-consult deal? I suspect that the two deals are similar: with start up companies for whom a realtionship with epo is a WIN/WIN situation. Nothing wrong in that but it leaves the cash flow issue. I suspect also that we need to see that resolved before the share holds any advance.

Eric

Tradx - 06 Dec 2004 20:49 - 659 of 706

ssanebs,

20 clients..annual t/o..is ? SFA , please check their accounts at companies house for details..

1.9 million ...where did this number come from?!!..(you get one guess), I think I will write a budget for a new business client today, and I will show that I will pay myself 5million (over time) based on these err 'projections...' hands up all those that think I have it about right?

Mr.Binnie is a 'one man band'...correct. And I and a collegue did speak to him, shortly thereafter when another poster over on advfn tried to validate my conversation, he was told that he had been warned not to discuss this public RNS (with contact details at the bottom) as they were in a 'closed period'.

Now how is this Global business going to grow from 20 clients (SME's) to the 2 million it will need to meet these projections (do the math..great exercise, could be more could be less, but hey my guesses seem as good as anyone elses)..

As for storing invoices..nearly all accounts packages can do this, and if you insist on having them in document form then almost all DMS and workflow packages will do it....including the storage (storage is very very cheap) the cost is SFA..(relatively)..average retrival time is less than 3 seconds..still you could call that a nightmare..A standard 80gb hard drive could hold upto 500,000 to 3 million invoices, depending on compression techniques and format..most SME's issue how many a year?

What MD/CEO do you know that cannot answer questions about their own business unless a 'suppliers' CEO is holding their hand..or if you were being unkind, pulling their strings? The answer would be, one whose business is not long for this world perhaps?

Please. Get real, step back and look at the track record here and then tell me that you believe every word you have written..Please tell me how much revenue you expect the last two deals to contribute over the next 3,6,12 months.

When a business is effectively a start-up, at best you can have hope, at worst look at the average life of a start-up and how many exceed...and please bear in mind XML, edi etc etc are not new concepts..go to talk to the companies that are actually doing it/selling it now..please check out how the competition are handling this..

I'll come back when I have stopped laughing.

jonny wilkinson - 06 Dec 2004 23:28 - 660 of 706

Tradx - 06 Dec'04 - 20:49 - 658 of 658

BB posting of the year !!

EWRobson - 07 Dec 2004 17:45 - 661 of 706

ssanebs

Reply needed to tradx and jonny wilkinson! You've got a scrap on your hands (hope its not for the scrap-merchant!)

Eric

EWRobson - 09 Dec 2004 14:10 - 662 of 706

Shares repeat SELL recommendation for earthport (page 28). Fills in background re Global Invoice Corporation: Cunningham claims his company has 'restructured GIC and will increase its capital'. 'The 2m licence fee is not guaranteed, though Cunningham insists it will be paid by the end of 2005'. 'GIC has funding when its clients pay up ...'

Shares comment: 'The interim statement showed negative shareholders funds of 6.5m and debt of 4.5m. This is an exceptionally high risk investment'.

All seems par for the course. Market expectations raised only to be dashed. Cunningham clearly is the devil (although the devil may be more than Cunningham!). You almost admire the chap: better the devil you know, they say!

Eric

xfactor - 19 Dec 2004 10:57 - 663 of 706

interesting article in this is money re BLM

Baltimore Technologies
BDO Stoy Hayward have been appointed auditors to Baltimore Technologies, replacing KPMG who 'elected not to review their appointment'.

Wonder why?
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