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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

oblomov - 04 Feb 2008 08:44 - 6522 of 81564


'The outcome will chiefly benefit Muslim men with more than one wife, as is permitted under Islamic law.'

So, now we're adopting Muslim law? Going back to the previous subject of badly behaved 'yoof', how would Muslim law deal with them? I can imagine in a more radical way than we do if that below is anything to go by, so maybe we should bring in a few other 'Muslim laws'.

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/middleeast/news/article_1371270.php/Saudi_Arabia_chops_off_hand_of_Egyptian_for_theft

hewittalan6 - 04 Feb 2008 08:47 - 6523 of 81564

Thanks for that, Greek.
One part of me hopes this ridiculous ruling becomes common knowledge so that the architects may be hung from a lamp-post a la Mussolinni, but another part of me hopes it remains very quiet, lest Dewsbury becomes a town of 4 women to every man.
You are a Yorkshireman, you'll know what I mean about Dewsbury.

greekman - 04 Feb 2008 08:59 - 6524 of 81564

Ah, but I was born in Nottingham and lived there until I was 29. Nottingham was always known for a city with a far higher ratio of females to males. No one every found out why. Mind you Yorkshire sheep are far more attractive than those found in Nottinghamshire. They are faster too, or could it be that age has slowed me down a bit. Fast women, fast sheep, they both have their own unique problems.

Women Are Like Sheep.

If youve ever had the not-at-all-pleasant pleasure of herding sheep, youll know why its such an evocative metaphor. Sheep are about the dumbest animals on the planet and would wander straight into a coyotes mouth if they arent herded. However, once you set them on the proper course, they generally follow itrebel sheep who dont go with the herd are pretty rare. Its becoming clear to me that the Biblical metaphor that mens relationship to women is the like gods relationship to his people, and gods relationship to people is like the sheepherder to the sheep is the primary metaphor that explains how conservatives square away all this restrictive reproductive rights legislation with their bullshit about smaller government. The government has no business interferring with the world of men, the world of business, etc. But certainly theres no reason to think the government shouldnt be pointing women, who are sheep after all, in the right direction.

Digging a big hole now.

jimmy b - 04 Feb 2008 09:00 - 6525 of 81564

If Muslim men can live in the UK with more than one wife ,can i ???? and if not ,why not ??.

hewittalan6 - 04 Feb 2008 09:04 - 6526 of 81564

I asked that and was told I was too ugly to find more than one woman.

greekman - 04 Feb 2008 09:05 - 6527 of 81564

Jimmy B,

Yes, no problem. Just change your religion to Muslim/Islam go to a Muslim country and marry several women. Although the rules have changed somewhat it appears that there are still several loop holes allowing this.

kimoldfield - 04 Feb 2008 09:55 - 6528 of 81564

"Islamic law permits men to have up to 4 wives at any one time - known as a harem - provided the husband spends equal amounts of time and money on each of them" ................ so, I would get whatever allowance I could get my hands on for the first, then 33.65 each for the extra 3; I would only have to stay with each of them for 1 minute a day and spend 50p on each, then I would be able to spend the rest of the day in the pub with Trev and have 99.45 left to buy a few rounds in. Fantastic, bring it on!

jimmy b - 04 Feb 2008 10:10 - 6529 of 81564

mmm,, money i forgot about that one.

greekman - 04 Feb 2008 10:12 - 6530 of 81564

As a kid I always dreamed that when I grew up, I would work in a harem. What a great job (I thought) look at all the freebies that you could possibly get away with. Chief tester for the harem owner, best job in the world. Then I found out what the application medical was like. It puts the old medical saying, 'Cough' into perspective.

50p on each. Bloody hell no wonder your so popular with women.

kimoldfield - 04 Feb 2008 10:17 - 6531 of 81564

My generosity knows no bounds Greek!

greekman - 04 Feb 2008 10:53 - 6532 of 81564

Bounds makes me think of bondage. Ok won't go there.

hewittalan6 - 04 Feb 2008 11:22 - 6533 of 81564

How does that tie up with this silly law, greek??

What galls me about all this is that if I were to set up a pressure group to press for these kinds of laws and rules allowing muslim men to follow their religious traditions in this country and offer legal advice and help on getting 4 wives here, flying first class HMRC, I would be awash with grants. The National Lottery, The Home Office, the foreign office, the ministry for racial affairs, all the bloody lot would fall over themselves to support me and give me money.
If however, Trevor and I, and a few of the likeminded who speak out on this august platform, set up a group to push for all citizens to obey the law, and for laws to be kept for the majority, for our moral values to be of higher importance than foreign religions and for the requirements of the indigenous population to be ranked higher than the desires of recent imigrants, what would happen then?
I would be denounced as a white supremecist, intolerant, charged with inciting racial hatred and derided as a nazi in the press.
I struggle to spot the difference. A few overly zealous Muslims are islamic supremecist, intolerant of their hosts views and morals, certainly incite racial hatred among non muslims towards muslims and are as far right as Hermann Goering. Yet they benefit from all kinds of legal protection.
As a kid we all thought George Orwells 1984 was a taste of the future. We were wrong. It was Lewis Carrolls Alice in Wonderland that was closer to the truth.

bosley - 04 Feb 2008 12:30 - 6534 of 81564

why on earth would anyone want more than one wife ? the amount of nagging one woman can do is truly incredible so why quadruple it ?

robertalexander - 04 Feb 2008 13:44 - 6535 of 81564

and worse still 4 wives ... 4 mother-in laws!!!

chocolat - 04 Feb 2008 14:08 - 6536 of 81564

The thing is how does Abdul go about claiming?
Is he even going to tell the truth?
I mean - he goes down the dole and says do you need to meet the wife before I can cop for the dosh and they say yes, so he says, well the thing is they don't get on that well so I'll have to bring 'em in one at a time, OK with you?
And the dole says fine so he goes and gets number one, who's wearing a beige burka and signs, then he buggers off and gets number two who's wearing a blue burka and she signs ... is the dole going to ask to clock the boat just to check it's a different wife?
Or even if it's actually a woman?

kimoldfield - 04 Feb 2008 14:16 - 6537 of 81564

I was thinking of buying my wife 4 burkas and starting a new business 'Rent a wife' to save the Muslim guys the hassle of getting a wife of their own, and claiming benefits the way you suggest Chocolat. Trouble is, you may now have alerted the authorities to a possible scam: mind you, by the time it's been passed around the various departments to decide who should deal with it, I should have a good 12 months head start. (Burkad head start at that)

ExecLine - 04 Feb 2008 15:05 - 6538 of 81564

Are there any MPs using this scam yet? Or their wives and families, either? Or ancient mothers? Or family trusts? Hmmm? Probably not family trusts but female elderly mothers could have sex change operations paid for by the state under certain circumstances, eg, after the Christmas cards have been done. Hmmm? Probably not Christmas cards but let's say Ramedan cards instead. Or maybe even birthday cards.

greekman - 04 Feb 2008 15:43 - 6539 of 81564

Execline,

That's why I mentioned Derek Conway in my post....."I suppose we can at least be grateful that Derek Conway is not a Muslim".
And you could also say that it puts (Derek Conway) child benefit in a new light.

jammyjimmy - 05 Feb 2008 10:43 - 6540 of 81564

A Little Humour.

Two southerners - both businessmen in London - were sitting down for a break in their new soon-to-be-opened store.

But as yet, the store wasn't ready, having only a few empty shelves set up.

One said to the other, "I bet any minute now some thick tourist is going to walk by, put his face to the window and ask what we're selling."

No sooner were the words out of his mouth when, sure enough, a curious Yorkshireman walked to the window, had a peek, and in a broad Yorkshire accent asked "What's tha sellin' ere then?"

One of the men replied sarcastically, "We're selling arse-holes."

Without skipping a beat, the Yorkshireman said, "Tha's doing well then...Only two left!"

oblomov - 05 Feb 2008 13:14 - 6541 of 81564



This is going back to a former topic (Mr Wetherspoon and badly behaved kids) but has/would anyone tried/try what David Cameron is advocating today?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article3308629.ece
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