There is a really good tech team here, lets give them some ideas for enhancements or to cure any bugs we find.

Tullettj, that is exactly what i am saying, things beyond your control...You cant account for these, that is why i am waiting, i cant see the logic to paying for something that is not proven....i am not saying that i do not like your product, quite the contrary, it is the case that it is not 'safe', if you know what i mean...

As for the 'Traders' BB, think i can live without a second PBB to be fair i wish it was like the FBB but without the idiots.......

What about offering something like a 'X' amount, day trial, as an offer, so that people can make their own minds up, have a look at the new things they will get , just so they know, just limit it to one trial per person, even do it for a couple of hours.....

Did'nt the price of Level 2 drop a while back..? i stand to be corrected on that , but your prices seem to mirror the 'other' site, but for lot less product (at the moment).

Alec...

alecm,

We are not currently offering Level2, nor do we have prices for that product displayed anywhere...?

J.

Johnathan,

I have sent Mike Boydell your Managing Director at least four emails in the last 48 hours, plus several others over the first two months but it appears that due to a long standing friendship with a Mr Johnathan Simms alias Dead Cat Bounce, also a close personal friend of Clem Chambers he does not want to deal with it.

Clem's posts on ADVFN PBB have a certain logic, We have our own secret weapon Ashley James, meaning if we send the boys round to MoneyAM, afterall they have left the door wide open, and they attack and harrass AJ, he will react, the traders will then return to the fold appalled by the ensuing commentry, he was indeed entirely correct with his strategy, AJ will react after six weeks of provocation, being called a lier, having his integrity questioned.

The bottom line, if you are a cronie of Mike Boydell, is that you can post what you want, however abusive, however if you are an outsider on the receiving end, forget it, the clique will win against anyone from the outside world.

In fact please do not post on shares or spend time injecting content, MoneyAM want an exclusive club, exclusive that is to anyone not in the inner circle, or whom is not a fully fledged GNI Day Trader.

There are only so many times you can ignore impartial policing of BBs when you have sold a monitored BB policy to the outside world.

Really, at this stage of the proceedings, to say I was not impressed would be being kind.

Cheers

Ashley

Ash, that has always amazed me, you can get any feed APART from FTSE for free...that still gets me smiling, but the FTSE feed from the LSE, still has to be paid for by some one, and it aint cheap......

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/distributors/realtime.asp

i looked into it for someone, who is setting up YET another of these sites, with an American backer, dont think it will be long until that one appears either....


There aint enough people to go around (ADVFN,III,am).? i totally agree, that is why i am a bit suprised that am is charging people to use a BB...

Lets look at it another way, ADVFN charge for PBB, now totally useless and un-used, III in the same boat, anyone see a pattern forming..??? AM, why is yours going to be so different..?? i cant see it....

Alecm,

Exactly, I pointed this out day one, was ignored, a far wiser strategy would have been to have had one BB day one, then offer access to a separate traders room after 90 days when functionality up and running serviced out of a monthly subscriptions.

This would enable you to gain critical mass day one of postings volumes, leveraged off loyal trader cronies, which would have attracted remaining investors and ADVFN type FBB clientelle for the first time able to follow the day traders threads in it's full glory.

Personally I would have charged everyone for BB use day 1 5 plus VAT after a 30 day cancellable trial period perhaps.

Now we have the worst of both worlds, a divided community, neither with critical mass, nor sufficient content or vibrancy playing both ends off against the middle, ie not knowing if ADVFN or MoneyAM will win out, a foot in both camps.

Meanwhile the market is systematically reducing the number of people even interested in shares by the day.

Is anybody out there in touch with the current stockmarket and economic collapse?

Hello-ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo?

Cheers

Ash

Mr Ashley James,

I have just been speaking with our Customer Services Manager about this matter, and we both agree that there are more people than just Mike who:
a) can deal with abuse on the bulletin boards.
b) *want* to deal with abuse on the bulletin boards.

Personal attacks will not be tolerated, it isnt always going to be possible for us to read every single post, which is why we have moderators and why it is good for other users to report these to us!

Please email support@MoneyAM.com any potential breeches on the BBs and they will be dealt with appropriately!

J.

Ash, i agree...

Lets look at it another way, i am new to this site, i look , i like, but the BB, is virtually un-used, i ponder, i know, i will look at the other one, AAhh, problem, i cant without paying...Do i pay for something i cannot look at..??

People should be charged a 5 sign on fee, then after say, 60 or 90 days, they pay 5 per month, that way they can see what they are paying for...

Alec......

.

I use the Traders room and find it very useful. It has been running for a few months now due to beta testing. A community has developed and the posters there are very helpful, polite and generous to each other. Ashley has his own battles to fight, some of which may be of his own making. Apart from Ash and his various combatants, there is no aggravation at all there.

There are useful threads on Technical Analysis, Sharescope and other software packages, US stocks, Crocodile's Traders thread which gives an insight into day trading and is a very useful learning tool. There are discussions on particular stocks and general chat about trading and investing techniques. It is a fantastic source of information. If you ask a question about the LSE, day trading, technical analysis or something that is pretty obscure about stocks, then you can expect to get an answer there. If you invest money in stocks then 5 a month is a not significant cost. That's about 1 a week. You can subscribe to it and if you don't like it then cancel it. It is not like ADVFN here. You can cancel whenever you want.

Because of the connection with Shares magazine, I am expecting to see more input to the site from their journalists. That is something which will make this site different from others.

ASh, people WILL pay for info, but they have to know what sort of info they are going to get..!!!

Who wants to pay for half the threads on the Traders Thread..???

Truth is, i would probably only read less than 10% of them, and the other BB is deserted, so not looking good is it..???

I would like to see a historic list of Director Dealings & up-to-date lists of Major shareholdings for all stocks.
Cheers.

Ashley: "One of the most telling things about the Traders Room ... lack of posts on most threads other than trading threads...". Now is that really surprising? Get a grip mate, you're an investor not a trader, no wonder you're not happy there. In fact as an investor you're not happy at all today, which is why you're attacking everyone in sight this morning!

Haystack, that is the problem , one person says one thing you say something completely different, my problem is, that at this present moment i need ADVFN, this site is not 100% reliable, it COULD go down any time, (but unlikely...) so why pay twice.?

IMO, am's approach is wrong, they should not be charging for either BB (apart for the 5 sign on fee), BUT they should be charging for Real Time prices, after all that is where their main expense is...

ADVFN have the same model. They charge for the PBB and the FBB is free. Kayak is correct in that the Traders room will appeal to traders rather than investors. The Investors will not be like the FBB. The FBB is supposedly an investors BB, but is constantly trashed by the crazies. They start hundreds of QXL threads, they abuse each other, they start racial battle threads and generally bahave badly. I cannot see this happening here. AM won't sit by and tolerate such behaviour.

It may be that you do not need the Traders room BB for your needs. You may need or like Level 2 when it arrives. I can see it being cheaper than other sites, but I have no insider knowledge of the proposed prices. One thing I am sure of, is that this site will be much more reliable and stable than it's competitors due to it's technology being different. Their streaming runs now and will run on more platforms including Mac, Unix, Linux etc than any others.

alecm,

What parts of the site are not reliable? I obviously need to look more closely at those sections.

Any site *could* go down at any time, and the only way of minimising this is to reduce as many single point failures as possible which we are always doing. By the same token, ADVFN could also go down at any time, so im not sure what your point is...

Is there something I am obviously missing? (im not talking about the billing/charging issues here, purely technical...)

J.

Kayak,

Actually I did not even realise the market had dropped as much as it had, I have only just realised, now I am well mift (;-o !

No reason I popped was as simple as DCB.

Which really frustrates me because I do not even mind the bloke, met him a couple of times briefly, and can not understand why he has been so upset to post as he does.

Anyway I have told MB to give him my home tel no so he can abuse me face to face and keep it off the boards, preferably sort his problem with me out man to cat or whatever.

Cheers

Ash

Haystack,

The point being to have access to Traders Room for a 5 plus VAT pcm is peanuts.

Cheers

Ash

Tullettj, have i touched a nerve..?

i know exactly what you are saying regarding Downtime, in cant be avoided sometimes...

My point..? ADVFN, did not introduce Some of their charges until it had been proven, IE streaming, but to me you(am) are doing it the other way round...IE charging for the product , then see if you like it....

Apologies if i am annoying you, but i feel it does no harm talking about things.....

Alec...

alecm
No. That is definitely not the case. The PBB on ADVFN was always charged for. Streaming came along very late in ADVFN's history. Most of the new features on ADVFN have been implemented over the last year. Level 2 was not available for quite some time.

I know the PBB was always charged for , and it was hardly ever used....look at it now, it is DIRE..!!!!!!