Proselenes
- 15 Jun 2011 08:54
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gibby
- 24 Apr 2012 08:34
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lol baler but i hope not - he does have some very good points also though - but the gas find is not commercially proven and to make it commercial the find needs to be massive at least 5 / 6 trillion cubic feet due to location and that type of gas expensive to process - that is well known - i hope you did well here before the drop - i guess someone like cynic might be shorting here right now
gibby
- 24 Apr 2012 08:36
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hyleo - unlikely to be imo which is maybe why that was not mentioned in the rns - wonder how low this will drop / where the bottom will be
required field
- 24 Apr 2012 08:37
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It's not commercial if it's on its own....this is condensate...if the drilling program goes well : it will not be on its own...there will be infrastructure...rigs everywhere....such early days yet...
gibby
- 24 Apr 2012 08:37
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this is worth remembering : Hoil was £4 plus based on an oil find then dropped almost immediately to £1.50 when their find was proved gas, additionally AUL also went from 86p to 18p when their oil turned to gas, that says it all imo gl
required field
- 24 Apr 2012 08:38
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Was not condensate.....big, huge difference in price...
gibby
- 24 Apr 2012 08:39
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rf - good point and because early days only and other mitigating factors the chance of lower sp is imminent
required field
- 24 Apr 2012 08:40
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Possible...but this might go back up to hover around 100p prior to next spud....
Balerboy
- 24 Apr 2012 08:40
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buy buy buy.,.
HARRYCAT
- 24 Apr 2012 08:40
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I suppose the Argentinians are rubbing their hands with glee, trying to pretend that they didn't really want that part of the Malvinas anyway!
required field
- 24 Apr 2012 08:41
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I doubt it HC.....this drilling campaign is going to be superb....
gibby
- 24 Apr 2012 08:44
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baler 50p would be nice! i seriously hope no one burned here though as otherwise that 50p comment would not be welcomed i realise that
required field
- 24 Apr 2012 08:45
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220p offer for Cove Energy,,,you see...even Shell loves gas......girlfriends don't but oil companies do.....
gibby
- 24 Apr 2012 08:47
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the drilling campaign will have its ups and downs as it already has politically would expect some sort of a deal with that mad argy woman will happen in time - argies are nothing much on their own - depends how much other SA countries back them and what if any US involvment diplomatic or other
gibby
- 24 Apr 2012 08:48
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lol rf
HARRYCAT
- 24 Apr 2012 08:49
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COV is mainland Africa rf, with infrastructure already in place.
Balerboy
- 24 Apr 2012 08:50
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He's trying to talk himself into buying more...........@50p.,.
gibby
- 24 Apr 2012 08:56
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lol & lol
required field
- 24 Apr 2012 08:57
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Going long (small punt).....we shall see...too many negative vibes here....
gibby
- 24 Apr 2012 09:12
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gl rf - see a bit of a rebound on small buying right now
Proselenes
- 24 Apr 2012 09:31
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As some people seem to struggle to understand what gas condensate is, I have put the following together quickly, apologies for errors in advance - this is just a simple way of giving an idea of what "gas condensate" is.
The most interesting question is what is the bngl/mmscf for the gas condensate ?
The company has said, in effect, this is not a "wet gas" find, they have said this is a "gas condensate" discovery.
"Wet gas" is as it says, its gas with fluids in it. Wet gas can be anything from tea cup of Natural Gas Liquids per MMSCF to around 10 barrels of NGL/MMSCF.
BNGL/MMSCF is Barrels of Natural Gas Liquids / Million SCF of gas.
Now, gas condensate discoveries, as opposed to wet gas discoveries, tend to have a value for bngl/mmscf from 10 barrels of NGL/MMSCF up to around 500 barrels of NGL per MMSCF at which point above 500 its into the realms of "volatile oil" before becoming "black liquid oil" at around 1000 BNGL/MMSCF equivalent values.
So
Up to 10 BNGL/MMSCF is "wet gas"
>10 BNGL/MMSCF up to 500 BNGL/MMSCF is "gas condensate".
>500 BGNL/MMSCF up to 1000 BNGL/MMSCF is "volatile oil".
>1000 BNGL/MMSCF equivalent is liquid black oil
To put that into perspective - if lets say the Darwin East + Darwin West structure is joined and has 5 Tcf of gas equivalent value and that "Gas Condensate" has a BNGL/MMSCF value of 100.
You would get :
5,000,000 MMSCF x 100 BNGL = 500 million barrels of condensate.
If its 2 Tcf and 200 BNGL = 400 million barrels of condensate.
If its 2 Tcf and 20 BNGL = 40 million barrels of condensate.
This is why at the moment its very hard to value this "gas condensate" discovery, but its certainly not a "wet gas" discovery as per RNS is clear, this is into the realms of gas condensate.
We await the fluid samples and therefore a value for the BNGL/MMSCF of the fluid recovered from Darwin.
If they recovered fluid from the reservoir it is possible this is actually in the borderline between gas condensate and volatile oil - if the BNGL/MMSCF were to be 500 then it would be fluid like, on the borderline state between condensate and volatile oil.