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Green Van Man, - make the Grade? (OCDO)     

hangon - 26 Jul 2010 16:09

Oh deary, this delivery service was spun out of Waitrose, DYOR and is now spewing out lots of green messages all over, for those shoppers that want home-delivery. Yet, oddly it seems in London next year Waitrose will launch its own delivery -( seems a bit "stupid" - eh?)
Meanwhile, the sp starts at 1.60 and slips a tad ( yet to make a Profit, but it's closer than those Dot-Com lunatic days..)....about 1.64 close today......yet, their Customers were offered a bung of shares at the Float-price....eh? (Well, it helps it get-away, I suppose.).

Chairman Michael Grade is said to be "very happy" with the discounted Float, but he gets shares to the value of a something-Bonus. However, some commentaters suggest he's not the right man for this business (or a.....).

Ocado - Grief, it's an Ugly name. They were so close to Car-Go, or Green-Del (er, perhaps?). It was also associated with John Lewis Group, but DYOR.

The BAD News is that today an RNS shows the level of Director support (did he "miss out" - or did his Broker missunderstand the word Goodbye...?
Director buys 3k's worth.....Ouch. That must upset anyone like me that thinks any Dir purchase of 50k+ is Goood. . . . . and anything under 10k is really Baaad.


Good Luck, this is an established business...


EDIT -(22Oct10)- 147p
EDIT (29Nov2017)- sp 362p= up 17% - maybe expecting a bid/contract

BAYLIS - 11 Jan 2011 00:39 - 7 of 52

Gross sales for the 52 weeks to 28 November 2010 rose 29% to 551.1m from a year before.

cynic - 11 Jan 2011 06:29 - 8 of 52

i felt over-invested generally so decided to bank a useful little profit here, not least because sp seemed disinclined to fall even after the results

required field - 24 Jan 2011 08:41 - 9 of 52

Can't believe this ....when they mean turnover ..is it total value of goods transported ?...that's not profit.....would love to short this soon......

cynic - 24 Jan 2011 08:50 - 10 of 52

this is worrying ..... you and i agreeing! ...... sure am glad i closed my previous short though

required field - 24 Jan 2011 09:06 - 11 of 52

1.2 billion pounds for a fleet of lorries...a delivery service ?...I can do it cheaper...

cynic - 25 Jan 2011 15:51 - 12 of 52

i was a bit late, but shorted these today around today's closing price ...... another indian rope trick

skinny - 25 Jan 2011 15:58 - 13 of 52

That's a clever trick - what is today's closing price?

cynic - 25 Jan 2011 18:49 - 14 of 52

228 or thereabouts ...... actually shorted at 228.7

gibby - 11 Feb 2011 10:56 - 15 of 52

easy dough right now imp

gibby - 11 Feb 2011 17:20 - 16 of 52

nice little earner here today - hope some others grabbed some on the bounce

gibby - 12 Feb 2011 16:26 - 17 of 52

hmmmmmmm - i tink i may have a little tickle again in here monday! the jl sell off managed by goldman was to other iis @ 165p!! more easy cash monday depending on sp obviously
reason for sell nowt to do with ocdo but pension fund strategy to limit % shares in anyone co. and was expected anyhow hence the bounce and more monday no doubt lol!

hlyeo98 - 01 Aug 2011 12:47 - 18 of 52

Retail having a bad time.

hlyeo98 - 12 Aug 2011 13:05 - 19 of 52

A record high of nearly one in three consumers say they have no spare cash, according to the retailers representative the British Retail Consortium (BRC).

According to its survey, which was conducted with the information group Neilsen, 65% of consumers have switched to cheaper grocery brands to save on household expenditure. Higher utility bills and fuel prices are squeezing consumers, the BRC says.

BRC chief executive Stephen Robertson claimed that competition within the grocery sector is helping to take the edge off price inflation, with a larger number of promotions and discounts on offer.

Despite increased penny-pinching and the higher number of consumers with no spare cash, the BRC reported a five point rise in its consumer confidence index.

The extra bank holiday and warm spring provided a little light relief for shoppers and perhaps diverted thoughts away from the incessant squeeze on incomes, but sentiment is no higher than it was two years ago when the UK was in the grip of recession, said Chris Morley, Neilsens managing director for the UK and Ireland, said.

Separately, Robertson said that recent riots are likely to be the final straw for many shops that had been struggling with tough trading conditions.

hlyeo98 - 13 Aug 2011 13:17 - 20 of 52


Goldman Sachs downgrades Ocado forecasts amid City concern.


Online retailer Ocado has been dealt its latest blow from the City after Goldman Sachs, its house broker, sharply downgraded its forecasts for the group.

Goldman, which helped lead Ocado's flotation in July last year, downgraded its revenue and profit forecasts and reduced its six-month share price target for the retailer from 297p to 225p.

Ocado's float was priced at 180p. The downgrade comes just weeks before Ocado is due to post its latest trading figures and risks further souring the company's relationship with City investors and analysts.

Tim Steiner, Ocado's chief executive, told The Daily Telegraph in June that the retailer was experiencing "growing pains" and that the company "would have liked to have grown a bit faster than this", leading to warnings of subsequent analyst downgrades.

Forecasts for earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation (Ebitda) were also revised lower, down 7pc this year and by 15pc in 2012.

Ocado moved into the black for the first time, with a 174,000 pretax profit in the quarter to May 15, but said that the pace of growth year-on-year had slowed due to capacity constraints.

"The capacity constraints are there but we'll get through them," Mr Steiner said, adding that plans for a second distribution centre remained on track, with completion due by the end of 2012.

Goldman's revision comes a month after Panmure Gordon analyst Philip Dorgan found that Ocado's brokers had sharply reduced their estimates for the retailer since its flotation.

Mr Dorgan said sales estimates for the online retailer had been downgraded by 30pc, Ebitda forecasts by 45pc and estimates for pre-tax profits by an eye-watering 62pc. He described the scale of the downgrades as "simply astonishing" and said he saw "considerable future downside to forecasts".

hlyeo98 - 22 Sep 2011 17:34 - 21 of 52

Serious meltdown... 50p soon.

hangon - 13 Jan 2012 11:41 - 22 of 52

SP was boosted by statement that Sales were up over Christmas, due to better weather . . . eh?
I thought they were a "delivery" company - so what's this "Sales" and why do people need more stuff when the weather is good...? No, I don't follow, but a 30% rise is good, until you realise it's MM being silly . . . watch it tumble.

hlyeo98 could be right (50p), if this goes on much longer. . . glad I stayed away.

dreamcatcher - 23 Jun 2012 07:22 - 23 of 52

Tuesday also brings us important half-time results from Ocado , the online groceries business that started out delivering for Waitrose supermarket. Following a brief rise after its flotation in mid 2010, Ocado shares slumped as investors worked out that its economics were questionable and significant further funding would be needed to get its revenues up high enough.

We still need to see how the firm's warehouse expansion is to be paid for, and how long it will be before profit levels can justify the current share price. I reckon it might be some time yet.

dreamcatcher - 23 Jun 2012 07:24 - 24 of 52

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dreamcatcher - 26 Jun 2012 16:57 - 25 of 52

..Ocado shares fall on Olympic worries

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Shares in Ocado, the online grocery business, fell heavily after it admitted that it had lost out during the Jubilee weekend and could be hit by disruption caused by the Olympics.

In sharp contrast to the major supermarket chains, which reported a boost in sales thanks to the Jubilee celebrations, Ocado said it has missed out because it could not send out extra vans to supply customers.

The company’s comments were made as it reported a modest half-year profit and a further loosening of ties with its main supplier Waitrose.

Tim Steiner, the chief executive, said extra holidays were difficult to respond to: “Grocery chains hire a bunch of temporary staff and allow an unpleasant atmosphere in store as it gets crowded.”

He said that sales during the final quarter of the year had been hit by 1pc to 2pc, roughly the equivalent to about £1.5m to £3m.

He said could not predict how the Olympics would affect business. “None of us know if it is going to increase demand, or whether it will increase the costs of delivery.”

These comments, along with a warning that the consumer economy remained tough encouraging customers to buy fewer items on each shop caused the shares to fall 20.1 to 88p.

Analysts said they were concerned at how competitive the market was becoming, with Asda (NYSE: WMT - news) , Sainsbury’s and Tesco (LSE: TSCO.L - news) all offering a greater amount of food on promotion.

Mr Steiner insisted that Ocado was not giving away a substantially more vouchers to attract new customers 2.6pc of its sales, up from 2.4pc the year before.

The company has pushed its own-brand line of food, and a growing range of non-food, further lessening its reliance on Waitrose. Eight in ten customers now put an Ocado-branded item in their basket. Fewer than 40pc of goods it sells now come from Waitrose. The deal Waitrose has to supply Ocado comes to an end in 2020.

it revealed pre-tax profits rose to £181,000 in the 24 weeks to May 13 from £174,000 in the same period last year on turnover up 12pc to £332m.

In December shares in Ocado fell to an all-time low after the troubled retailer warned that continued problems at its Hatfield distribution centre would mean yet another year of pre-tax losses.

The highest number of orders delivered in a week exceeded 138,000 during the period.

Joseph Robinson, senior consultant at research agency Conlumino, said: "Ocado seems to have long left behind the issues that have besieged its Hatfield site, and so impinged its 2011 numbers, with its update representing a pleasing performance.

"However, significant question marks remains over the long-term potential for the Ocado model to achieve profitability. Moreover, in the shorter-term, the retailer will encounter an intensifying competitive environment, as its rivals continue to pour investment into pricing and promotions to drive market share."

Meanwhile, Ocado has revealed that former B&Q chief financial officer Duncan Tatton-Brown will join the company in the same role

chuckles - 26 Jun 2012 21:40 - 26 of 52

Easy short money here, going sub 60p, nay bother. Aye.
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