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Griffin Mining - golden future (GFM)     

Sharesure - 10 Jun 2005 19:26

Griffin Mining - golden future! http://www.basemetals.com/

GFM deserves a new thread after todays AGM. For the first time the venue was packed with shareholders, a tribute to the interest and support the company has for what the Board has achieved. For those unable to be at the meeting here are some of the points I noted which may interest folk on this BB.

Production: dry and wet testing now completed and zinc concentrate comes through the smelter next week. Zinc price on the LME is currently $1300/ton. GFM is being offered $1700/ton at the mine gate. This premium reflects the demand and difficulty local industry has in sourcing this basic metal ( As an aside the chairman reported that zinc is not easily and efficiently extracted as a recycled metal so newly mined zinc is always required). Cost of production is $595/ton ($700/ton if all depreciation costs are included). Labour costs are $1000/worker pa cf an Aussie underground worker of $130,000/worker pa. Apparently the 20m.pa worker migration from agricultural to industrial jobs means that there are queues of applicants wanting jobs at the mine; wage inflation is not an issue. 240+ employees on site to run the mine on a 24/7 basis.
Production can be increased w/o further investment for a throughput of 400,000 tons of ore pa; An increase to 500,000tons pa would require further investment of between $1m and $2m . All plant has been purposely over-engineered to ensure capacity can rise reliably and with back-up facilities (eg 3 boilers, 2 of which are back-up)
H&S is to world stds., setting an example to the rest of the Chinese mining industry which has a poor record currently because of the number of small private mines.

Reserves: 14.5years supply on current zone rising to 25 years in zone 3. Chairman showed an independent report which believes that the closure of many existing zinc mines is now producing a supply gap which will continue to improve the zinc price cycle to year 2012.

Profits: No problems known or foreseen to the repatriation of profits. However the chairman stated that the profits might achieve more for shareholders if the company uses these for further exploration and possibly buying back the companys shares. The latter move might help resolve the current shorting problem where it is thought that between 6 or 7 million shares are currently being shorted. This move could have a highly geared effect on increasing the share price and help deter the shorters/stock bashers from further activity.

Exploration: Chairman says company will be drilling a further 18,000m over the coming summer months and in his personal view he expects the company to steadily move towards becoming a gold mining concern, with some of the profits from the zinc smelting funding that work. An RC rig which costs 33% of the cost of a diamond drilling rig has been brought on to site.
Future exploration areas always being looked at + changes in Chinese Ministry of Land & Resources policy towards funding means that GFM will likely be offered many more prime government held assets in the near future.

Personal view is that GFM is a well and responsibly run mining company which is now likely to really grab a lot more attention as the profits start to flow as of next week. I am sure others on this BB at the meeting can fill the gaps where I have missed anything.

robstuff - 04 Nov 2005 12:12 - 702 of 1193

Happens all the time though, very difficult to stop it

Andy - 04 Nov 2005 12:34 - 703 of 1193

rob,

I agree, it is difficult to stop, but some leak, and some don't!

I prefer those that don't, but this may not be a leak at all IMO.

GFM mentioned gold results by end of October, so people may just be speculating they are now due, and presuming they will be good.

I would like to know how much leveraged money is going into GFM right now, the market does know this of course, and can use that information to it's advantage from time to time.

Miners are habitually late with drilling results, so I would only hold shares that are paid for at the moment personally.

016622 - 04 Nov 2005 16:40 - 704 of 1193

up 2.5% on aday of small sells and a 100k buy after close...looks good for next week,
cheers all!

Sharesure - 05 Nov 2005 15:56 - 705 of 1193

Just back from a week away. GFM's directors should also be back from China shortly so expect news within 10 days?

aldwickk - 06 Nov 2005 10:34 - 706 of 1193

aldwickk - 09 Nov 2005 09:46 - 707 of 1193

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Wednesday November 9, 10:45 AM
INTERVIEW: Zinc Miners Wary Of Foiling Bullish Prospects

By James Attwood
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SYDNEY (Dow Jones)--Zinc miners are reluctant to expand their operations even as prices of the galvanizing metal surge to cyclical highs on the London Metal Exchange, Zinifex Ltd.'s (ZFX.AU) chief executive said Tuesday.

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In the late 1990s and early this decade, miners poured billions into ramping up output only to see prices collapse to 18-year lows as global demand slowed, forcing some to scale back investments and others to exit altogether.

Melbourne-based Zinifex, the world's second-largest producer of refined zinc, is itself a product of the industry's dark years, emerging from the ashes of the failed Pasminco group.

However, even as improving fundamentals mean zinc is fast becoming the new darling of the metals world, Zinifex and other major producers are wary of again flooding the market with additional supply and forcing prices back down.

"One would like to think producers have learned the lessons of the past, but time will tell," Greig Gailey told Dow Jones Newswires.

"Zinc is one of the late performers in the cycle and it's only in the last couple of months we've begun to see prices, at least in Australian dollar terms, that might encourage you to think of additional production," Gailey said.

"The rundown in LME stocks has been accelerating in the last month or so, so we're very positive about the outlook over the next 12 to 18 months at least," he said.

Most forecasters agree zinc's prospects heading into 2006 are bright, as concentrate tightness holds back refined metal availability and Chinese imports surge, although price expectations beyond 2006-07 are generally lower.

Major Expansion Plans Remain On Hold

Zinc's relatively newfound bullishness and concerns over repeating past mistakes by flooding the market means major expansion plans will remain on hold.

Contributing to the wariness are structural constraints derived from the lack of any significant investment in exploration and development when prices languished below US$800 in 2001-03.

"Even if we were to commit to a (new) mine today, it would be something like five years before you'd see any production, so you have to have a degree of confidence about longer-term prices," he said.

"Then you have to look at what other people might chose to do because you have to bear in mind the total supply-demand picture, not just where one company fits in it."

Other major zinc producers appear similarly wary. Market leader Teck Cominco Ltd. (TEK.MV.A.T) of Canada is understood to be keeping major expansions on hold until global stocks drop to at least 200,000 metric tons from current levels of 475,00 tons.

In fact, the only major zinc development in the pipeline is the San Cristobal mine in southern Bolivia, slated to start producing 200,000 tons a year from mid-2007.

The dearth of new projects has some analysts saying zinc stocks could shrink to record lows next year, which if copper's recent record-breaking performance is anything to go buy, has a potentially explosive implication on prices.

Escalating development and operating costs in the mining industry generally, as a byproduct of the commodities boom, are adding to the constraints on new supply, Gailey said.

He gave the example of Zinifex's A$1.3 billion Century mine in Queensland, Australia that in today's climate would have cost in excess of A$1.5 billion.

Smelters Feeling Concentrates Pinch

Zinifex posted profits of A$234.7 million for the year ended June 30, thanks largely to rising prices in the tightening concentrates market.

But the same situation means smelters like its Clarksville smelter in Tennessee, Zinifex's only unprofitable asset in the fiscal year, are feeling the pinch.

The company depends on concentrates from South America and Ireland for Clarksville, which may be forced to close if it continues to be unprofitable.

Gailey also said Zinifex would consider buying operating mines in South America as part of a global acquisition strategy.

"We've looked at a number of acquisition opportunities in the last 12 months and continue to do so, but (so far) we haven't seen anything we believe could be acquired in a way that would add value to shareholders...resource assets at the moment are very fully priced," he said.

The industry's consolidation potential includes Zinifex itself, Gailey said: "Our view of life is if somebody wants to buy Zinifex the only issue is price."

The company also plans to continue preparing for the future by farming into brownfield projects run by junior explorers in Australia and elsewhere, he said.




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dibbles - 10 Nov 2005 09:55 - 708 of 1193

Daily Express- Talk of bullish gold drilling update from Griffin Mining

robstuff - 10 Nov 2005 10:31 - 709 of 1193

Dibbles - Tell us more..

dibbles - 10 Nov 2005 11:48 - 710 of 1193

robstuff, thats it, but the rags have been reliable with gfm rumours up to now.

explosive - 10 Nov 2005 20:18 - 711 of 1193

14th - 17th Nov is China Mining 2005 Congress & Exhibition in Beijing. Griffin is a sponsor so may be a release then as all players will be there. Link below FYI....

http://www.china-mining.com/

Could possibly be where the rags are getting info from also as I suspect the normal crowd will be there to report.

Sharesure - 15 Nov 2005 12:14 - 712 of 1193

Is GFM alone in the zinc mining industry with a sliding sp when zinc is hovering around $1600/tonne? It makes no sense with other news pending as well.

robstuff - 15 Nov 2005 12:16 - 713 of 1193

I think it's just the usual impatience before expected news, could be any day now though and could be exciting..

Andy - 15 Nov 2005 22:21 - 714 of 1193

Sharesure,

The whole AIM mining sector is soft IMO.

Good news is simply being absorbed.

explosive - 15 Nov 2005 23:00 - 715 of 1193

Andy / Sharesure, alot of investors got in on Griffin ealier in the year ready for the initial climb. Now is the time they will take profits and move on. For us still in we can only wait for news and everyone on the share is trying to predict what the news will be. The share I think is now coming out of its overbought status... Hench a small slip before any climb can be expected. Griffins sp is also in line with current zinc prices to its asset base. The board have not let us down yet, and I believe thay will furhter deliver for us.

Andy - 15 Nov 2005 23:03 - 716 of 1193

explosive,

I agree completely with your sentiments, and also that the the board have delivered.

AIM mining sector is weak at the moment, I ownder if it's going to be a small blip, or a more general selloff.

explosive - 15 Nov 2005 23:12 - 717 of 1193

Andy - Small blip I think, fund and hedge managers will not be bothered to put down their mince pies to sell out.... We'll see this come end March begining of April.... For now its all the smaller investors getting out, hench no RNS's of big sales....

aldwickk - 16 Nov 2005 09:17 - 718 of 1193

ZOX is up 1p this week.

explosive - 23 Nov 2005 19:51 - 719 of 1193

5% gain today, should back to 50 for year end...

Hectorp - 24 Nov 2005 14:06 - 720 of 1193

I believe GFM is a strong buy and should be bought on all dips,as I have been doing for some time. In the coming weeks we will get news of the gold drilling samples. But there IS a delay in this as the company has said, so dont worry.

explosive - 26 Nov 2005 12:45 - 721 of 1193

Hectorp, bought on all dips... Below what price?
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