Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Kind of agree, Greek.
It is also the way in which it accepted by the recipient.
The one that bothers me is the way the term Pakki is taken as racist without thought, yet for many people it is an accepted term that is used to describe an Asian. I hear the cries of Indians and Bengalis but to be honest, we are happy to call Iraqis and the like Arabs when they clearly are not.
Furthermore, surely Pakki is an accepted contraction of the "allowed" word Pakistani, and if this is the case, then classing Pakki as racially offensive should mean the term Brit is racially offensive.
I am proud to be a Brit, are they not proud to be Pakistani?????
I was once on a charge of racism based on the fact that I was asked to identify a young lady in a group of 12 and I said it was the black girl. She was the only non white in the group, yet my description was taken as a racist slur!!!

I think the sensitivity to nicknames when acceptable to the individual concerned is madness.

Howeverit , it does depend on the intent of its use.

Many Welshmen, are called Taffy or Taf by their friends in Wales itself. The use of the nickname by the English is generally friendly; sometimes it is used in a condescending manner. One just ignores the latter user in that situation or give the user the respect they deserve.

Personally, I see little advantage to having a "Royalty", but the media and racially sensitive groups hounding of the younger members is stupid.

I hope, if I ever had a black cat (god forbid) and called it Sooty, the cat nor the public will object.

Have we sunk so low that the media need to even discuss this nonsense.....did anybody hear that prat of an asian Labour MP last night telling off Prince Charles via an interview ?, what have we come to ?, really pathetic !.

Alan,

Fully agree it is the way it is accepted by the recipient. Also agree re Fred and Required F's comments.
Re the term Paki, yes it is nearly always used as a racial derogatory term which is my main point. I would not dream of calling anyone of Pakistani origin, a Paki due to this reason, IE a term that is generally excepted as being insulting, I would also not refer to him/her as such unless I knew for certain that he did not mind in any way.
As to the term 'Black', again having worked with many 'black' people, I quickly found that those who are black, IE Afro Caribbean or/and similar do not like the term coloured. Many black people are proud of their colour and so they should be.
I was born in this country, of English parents, I am therefor a sort of pinky beige colour, definitely not white. But I would expect anyone referring to my colour as white.
Q. What colour am I, born from indigenous Brit parents?
White, Pink, Beigish or a mix of the lot.

Strange really how we are discussing something that as RF states is nonsense and pathetic, although that is precisely why I posted.

Greekman, I agree with you that Paki is currently and generally used in this country in a derogatory manner. For the last thirty years I have shopped in the Asian area of Birmingham for spices and vegetables etc.. I can remember being used by Pakistanis, in a jocular way to one another, he is just a bloody Paki. This was generally referring to the fact he had recently come from Pakistan.

Also, I use to play squash with quite a few Pakistanis and Egyptians and the banter between these rivals or friends included the term Paki as well as a few other choice epithets. It seems a long time ago, but I think without real offence being taken.

I think sometimes we are becoming too politically careful.

Compared with nicknames used by friends to one another in other countries, those used in Britain are pretty mild. I am not advocating the use of derogatory name throwing.

I agree.

Born and raised in Nottinghamshire (where females outnumbered males 2 to 1), I moved to Yorkshire (God's Country) at the age of 29.
Having now lived in Yorkshire for 31 years, when ever I go back home (still call it that) to see my old mates, the call of , 'Here comes the sheep sh***er' as I walk into my old local is often heard. This is never given or taken in any offensive way.
The only effect it has on me is one of surprise, How did they find out!

Greek,

I have never heard of Nottinghamshire girls called sheep before.
8-)

Ah, but many were lead like lambs.

That really is offensive, Greek.

All lambs should be unleaded these days, unless it is a similar idea to Milton Keynes' concrete cows. Milk from these cows is very expensive nad is used in the cheese industry because it sets so quick.
All cheese in America has to be imported as they have no culture of their own.
Why do yanks refer to bills as cheques and cheques as bills
The shortest bill of any bird in the world is the Kiwi. They know a thing or two about sheep. The people, not the birds. New Zealand has 60 sheep for every human, though this is disputed due to the difficulties in categorising the hybrids.
Sorry, what was the question?

Alan,

Just what have you been on today. Yanks, Kiwi's and 'cheques', (don't you mean Czechs) and Hybrids. Just how politically incorrect can you get.

This thread has gone to the dogs. Politically incorrect, racist, inaccurate......I could go on but I won't. Suffice to say I am shocked and dismayed. WE, THE WELSH have sole right to the term "sheep shagger"; you lot from 'oop north' have no right to try to steal our rightful title. It has always been the same, the English trying to steal from the Welsh (no don't even think of going down the "Taffy is a Welshman, Taffy is a thief" road) - we were shagging sheep long before you lot.

Signed
Disgusted of Denbighshire (somewhat shakily)

Sheep, thats all you heathen lot can manage. Now my great, great, great (you get the idea) granddad fancied woolly mammoths. What do you think killed them all off.
Going to the dogs. OK not going down that road either.
By the way, it's oop norff. Tipical the welch cud nefer spel.
OK off out now, tonights date has just walked past the end of the field.

Please tell me it's not Mutt on tonight! She gave me the chop last week.

Remember the Yorkshire National Anthem is not Ilkley Moor Bah Tat, its "I'll never find another ewe".

Our nursery rhyme starts with "Mary had a little lamb, her father shot the shepherd".

I have known people attend clinics because they have scrapie, and our local porn shops sell knitting patterns.

Well! I never knew this before!

Q. Do you know where the 'H' comes from in 'Jesus H Christ'?

A. The H stands for Harold, as in, 'Our Father, who art in heaven, Harold be thy name'.

So now you know.

Have we moved the thread onto things I never knew???

If so, did you know King Henry the eighth never had 6 wives? He had 2 wives (or 4 if you are a Roman Catholic).

King Henry actually had over 50 wives. Problem was most of them were married to other men at the time.

Greedy bugger!

Greedy yes, but there is no evidence he was a bugger.