http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html

cheers GF.

london is south.....any further and its in the channel........no bad thing though!!

15 quid but not tomorrow........all this hurry with money is why capitalism and western world has failed........every other country is overtaking the west.......cant believe they ae still carrying on with failed capitalist set-up

a bit hypocritical aren't you? ..... you are clearly happy enough to subscribe to capitalism and even the chinese and russians have adopted the system, albeit sometimes considerably bent to suit.

Lady in red comes to mind.......

Gold is "out" for now, as money goes out of gold and back into stocks.

Certainly one would suggest for year end from now gold is down and oil should be up.

Is this the "bull run" as if it is gold should continue downwards.

i agree that gold and oil should move in opposite directions, but we all know that that is not necessarily the case ...... and of course POG sp does not necessarily react in the same way as bullion - i.e. it is bought/sold in its own rights.

nevertheless, i fully concur that crude is much more likely to motor ahead during 2009 than bullion

If we didn't have a capitalist set-up you wouldn't be able to buy & sell shares so if you're so against the system why are you in the markets?!

marx predicted collapse of banks etc in 1800s with greed of capitalism........communist society dont believe in banking, globalisation etc and so they wouldnt have suffered like the west........also society there has little in way of vandalism or violence under communist set-up and their football teams, athletes were better as people were made to excel at what they do in life. all these countries now have become very poor at all these things since capitalism was set-up.......and when you visit these countries like russia, you know more or less you will meet a russian unlike most western countries which is full of dis-trust etc between eac other.

You idiot, communist athletes were pumped full of drugs to ensure they excelled.

now let's have a round of applause for the gulags, the mass deportations and mass executions ...... but of course russia is no longer a communist regime in any sense of the word ..... but how about a paeon of praise for that fine example of a true marxist state as exemplified by north korea

The Communist regime in Russia killed more of its own people than the Nazis did. It was the biggest mass murderer the world has ever seen. No vandalism? - you, your wife and all of your children were deported or shot for such activities. Distrust? - Do you know how many people died because others reported them as not fully following the communist doctrine?

I could go on but what's the point - If you believe in a regime because it produces good gymnasts by taking them away from their families, depriving them of a childhood and pumping them full of drugs, there's no hope.

This is all fascinating, and to my surprise a spelling mistake from cynic, paean, I think. Can we get back to shares now please, I assume this is a capitalist request.

Yes .Is capitalist request No!!
And my Russian is even worse Yes.

Slightly off topic but the last King of Scotland is a great film and really gets into the head of a mad mass-murdering dictator, Mr. Amin

Yes Idi Amin would have been a great scottish king perhaps much better than macbeth, pity he died scotland deserved him!

I wonder which tartans he would have wiped out to satisfy his paranoia

haha, britain whether its england or scotland aint english or scottish.....i can testify to this and laugh at way uk is now. i know a lot of scotland is made up of stupid english people......mind you they do tha in wales too. wonder where welsh or scottish go to.........anyway, poles, asians, africans, middle east all make up uk now whether scotland or england.

and who rules all the people up north halifax? who would want to in your little depressed houses. halifax, lol, you lost your building society thanks to corrupt james crosby and andy hornby

oh dear, oh dear, oh dear .... marni getting personally abusive yet again ..... pathetic!

lelael - thank you; you are absolutely right; i was confusing my praise with my greek verse metering

Talking of banana republics and dictators mention of above in here
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/even-jack-bauer-couldnt-stop/story.aspx?guid=%7BBE0D1772%2DA628%2D454D%2D80BF%2DC4484CEBA7DF%7D&dist=TNMostRead

Gone back into the market long for a position in Hambro.

Price of gold is moving up nicely and there are ? marks about the results of bank stress tests coming up I think tomorrow.

Could be a good hedge against any nasties.