Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I appreciate times are hard but after some thought I decided to post the following 2 sites that my son Mark has opened in able for anyone out there who wishes to donate for the Coast to Coast walk that we both completed, May 15th to May 28th 2009.
Any amount gratefully received.
I know that there are so many charities out there that no one can donate to them all, so will only mention this post again in order to thank anyone kind enough to donate.

This is a local Hospice.........www.justgiving.com/coast2coastdovehouse
This is a charity for Lupus Sufferers, an immunity attacking desease.........www.justgiving.com/coast2coastlupusuk

Greekman

No doubt all out there want to see our disgraced MPs treated the same as us serfs when it comes to criminal activities.
As a member of The Tax Payers Alliance (its free to join) I have just received their latest news sheet. They have pulled a team of legals together, with the intention of taking out private prosecutions against several of the worse offending MPs, if the powers that be IE Police/CPS decide to take no action.
In a previous post I stated that I would make my own approach to legal action via a criminal report. It now looks like the TPA will ensure these criminals do not escape justice, or at least a prosecution.
Some might just get what they deserve.
Being sorry, and paying back the proceeds of a crime has never been an escape clause re crime, specially when these are as a result of being caught.

Trevor was locked up for a political offence and Amnesty International wouldn't help him.

He broke into the conservative club and nicked a barrel of Watneys.

No problem. All he needs to do is say he will give it back, say he is sorry and sell his story to the papers. Also the con club sec will probably contact a Con MP who will put it on his expenses, at an inflated price of course, so its a win win situation.

Q Was it our local Con Club (Beverley) that Trev targeted, as I overheard an official looking bloke the other day as I was passing our local Con Club saying, " Someones snaffled some of our beer stocks, so just deliver another Firkin dozen barrels". And there was me thinking there was no such barrel size for beer.

I have just read the headlines that police are hunting a man after a womans body was found in a wheelie bin.

When caught, he should be hung. I have no truck with criminals, except Trevor because if you're that rubbish at it you're a kind of anti-hero, and the punishment cannot be severe enough.

However, I find myself wondering, given the system of punishments we have, and the ludicrous sentences handed down, if the police would get a harsher punishment for the murderer if they asked for the murder to be taken into consideration, and putting the wrong rubbish in the wrong coloured bin to be the more serious crime.

True - I take it that you voted UKIP.

What a very sad story....

From http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/....

Sailor 'loses life savings after yacht sinks to bottom of sea'
A sailor has been left penniless after his uninsured 25,000 yacht sank, taking his life savings to the bottom of the sea.

By Sarah Knapton
Published: 7:00AM BST 15 Jun 2009

Jonathan Orme-Dawson, of Norwich, was just two months into a year-long journey when the boat hit rocks off the Dorset coast in thick fog.

The 61-year-old had to be winched to safety by a Coastguard helicopter from an inshore lifeboat that managed to rescue him.



But the 24ft yacht he had restored later broke up, due to the damage, and sank.

Mr Orme-Dawson was forced to leave his passport and money for his trip on board the stricken vessel.

"I'd saved up for a long time but it's all floating out there now I'm afraid - the money as well," he said.

"It was the trip of a lifetime.

"I planned a year to be away but that's been cut short now by 10 months I'm afraid."

He added: "But now my lovely old yacht is at the bottom of the sea and my dream has been ruined.

"The whole lot is destroyed and even if I am able to salvage anything, all the electronic kit will have been wrecked."

Mr Orme-Dawson, a retired languages teacher, had spent years restoring his 24 foot yacht.

He had planned a year long trip travelling anti-clockwise around the UK coastline, calling in at harbours en route.

He set off on April 1 but on Friday night, as he was sailing from Lyme Regis to West Bay in Dorset, his engine failed in thick fog.

The 50-year-old wooden vessel Harnser then smashed on to rocks because he could not see.

"I am not familiar with the area but thought I could hug the coastline," Mr Orme-Dawson said.

"However, the huge cliffs cut off the wind and water got into the diesel so my engine failed.

"Suddenly there was a crunk and I was aground."

He added: "I realised I needed to call Mayday for help because I was in serious danger."

The yacht had been holed and later sank but Mr Orme-Dawson managed to radio for help and the coastguard scrambled air and sea rescue teams.

Richard Horobin, from the RNLI, said: "It was a dangerous rescue. We could not get close to the yacht because of the rocks.

"So two of our men swam 50 metres to the nearby beach and that is how they got the rope to the yacht.

"But when we tried to pull her off the rocks she began to take on water."

He added: "We then got the yachtsman off the boat and he had to wade through water. He was later winched to safety from the beach by helicopter"

Mr Ormer-Dawson paid tribute to his rescuers.

"They were just tremendous - it was such a relief to see the helicopter arrive," he said.

"The sea was quite choppy and some of the waves were six or seven feet high, which is quite scary when you are being battered.

"I was in deep shock and very tired because the boat was breaking up and being pounded by waves. The lifeboat also arrived and one of the crew came aboard to help me."

He said he could honestly say that without his rescuers, he would "not be here to tell the story".

He added: "I am an experienced sailor but I can say that I am only alive because of the combined efforts of the coastguard and the RNLI."

Last week Paul and Helen Glavin, of Weymouth, were forced to watch their 15,000 yacht sink off the coast of the British Virgin Islands in the Caribbean after accidentally hitting a whale.

And last weekend a US research vessel charged with protecting endangered whales hit one of the animals off the Massachusetts coast cutting into the animal's left tail fluke with its propeller.

'Phwoar' or not 'Phwoar'? That is the question.

As usual, the law is an ass, IMHO. What on earth was such a pious Muslim girl doing working as a cocktail waitress?


Muslim cocktail waitress Fata Lemes wearing the red dress
Photo: TIM STEWART NEWS LIMITED

Muslim waitress wins nearly 3,000 for hurt feelings over skimpy dress
A Muslim cocktail waitress who resigned after being ordered to wear a "revealing" dress for work that offended her religious beliefs has won 3,000 for sexual harassment despite having posed for photographs in a low-cut top.
Published: 7:00AM BST 16 Jun 2009

Fata Lemes, 33, who claimed her upbringing meant she was "not used to wearing sexually attractive clothes", was handed the payout even though it later emerged pictures of her in a revealing top had appeared on Facebook, the social-networking site.

Miss Lemes later insisted that the photo was taken on a beach and was irrelevant to her claim that the dress she was asked to wear at the Rocket Bar in Mayfair made her "look like a prostitute".

The tribunal panel concluded that the Bosnian Muslim "holds views about modesty and decency which some might think unusual in Britain in the 21st century".

But it accepted that she genuinely believed that the short, low-cut dress was "disgusting" and made her look "like a prostitute".

It ruled that her bosses should have made allowance for her feelings and their insistence that she wear the dress amounted to sexual harassment, it ruled.

Lawyers for Spring & Greene, the restaurant group that owns the bar, highlighted the existence of the Facebook picture to the tribunal but it is not known whether the panel ever saw it before making their judgment.

The panel at Central London Employment Tribunal found that Miss Lemes "overstated" her trauma at being asked to wear the sleeveless dress that was open at the back.

It rejected Miss Lemes' claim that she was left with no choice but to walk out of her job after just eight days.

It branded her compensation claim of 20,000 including 17,500 for hurt feelings as "manifestly absurd".

But it awarded her 2,919.95 for hurt feelings and loss of earnings.

Miss Lemes, who had previously worn black trousers and top to work, told the tribunal that she "might as well be naked" in the dress, adding: "I was brought up a Muslim and am not used to wearing sexually attractive clothes."

In its judgment, the panel ruled that restaurant group Spring & Greene must "take their victim as they find her".

It said of the dress: "It is eye-catching, not only because of its colour but also because of its cut and lines.

"It is clearly a garment for a girl or young woman. It is intended to, and does, show the curves of the body.

"It seeks to make the wearer attractive. It might be seen as a party dress or something to wear at an informal celebration."

But the panel ruled that wearing the dress could not amount to "conduct of a sexual nature".

Miss Lemes told how she was pestered for sex by customers at the bar shortly after starting work in May last year.

The tribunal ruled: "In our judgment, the effect of requiring her to wear the dress was to violate her dignity. We further consider that it created for her an environment which was degrading, humiliating and offensive."

It pointed out that a summer uniform of "brightly coloured, figure-hugging garb" had not been introduced for male waiting staff.

But the tribunal rejected Miss Lemes' claim of constructive dismissal.

The company's lawyer Tom Grady told the tribunal: "There is no evidence to support the suggestion that it is a sex club or some sort of seedy brothel."

Here's Fata's Facebook picture:

On a beach or not. Taken without her permission, so what. Next she will be saying that she was forced to wear the dress before she went onto the beach. I can't see any embarrassment on her face (red Dress Picture).
And just what did she think a cocktail waitress would be required to wear, a full Hijab.
No doubt her next move will be to apply to be a stripper or a lap dancer, so that when she is asked to strip or sit on a mans lap she can scream 'sexual harassment', and win a few more thousand.
Like you say, 'The law is an ass', or is it just pro anything not indigenous British.

The law may indeed be an ass, but what does that make us, for allowing the law to make these decisions?

We should be hollering from the rooftops for change, and to allow the indigenous to have their culture supreme over any other on any point of law where there is a conflict.

May seem a little right wing, but it is the product of left wing policy for 30 years.

Sorry to change the subject to shares (is it allowed on this thread?) but does anyone know what usually happens when a company of which you are a shareholder is bought out by an overseas company? A year ago I sold all my Stanelco shares (phew!) and bought into Rift Oil with the proceeds at 6p. Rift have accepted an offer from a Canadian co. at 13p a share, the shares are now trading at 12.5p but there appears to be massive selling. Presumably the company has to remain registered in the UK or the new company buy up all existing shares? If not what happens to my shares? I can't under stand why everyone would be selling.

Lets hope that the lawyer who advised her charges 3000 for their advice.

oblo, if an offer has been made at 13p then provided you accept and the offer goes through, you will be paid the 13p sometime in the future. If you don't want to wait until the payment date (given in the offer information) or gamble on the (normally small) chance that the offer might not go through, then you can sell in the market. There are people in the market happy to buy your shares at a discount and sell them to the Canadian company later for 13p.

Thanks Kayak - appreciate you taking the time to explain. What I don't understand is why people are selling at 12.5p - possibly they don't think it will go through?

There is always a chance it won't go through, normally small but sometimes not. It depends on the conditions of the offer. Once the offer has gone 'unconditional' then the chance is minimal since all the conditions have been met.

The other reason is that people who have another use for their money may prefer to have 12.5p now and reinvest it rather than waiting weeks for the extra 0.5p.

So, presumably, you could buy now at 12.5p and if the deal goes through be sure of picking up 0.5p per share profit?

oblo, the co. doesn't have to remain listed in the UK. That should have been specified somewhere if its intention is to delist i would think. It could be complicated to sell through a canadian broker (if UK brokers stop dealing it) if it does delist hence the selling. You could do with clarifying the listing position.

Yep oblo, that is what the arbitrageurs who buy at 12.5p are relying on, though of course there is a risk it doesn't go through and the price crashes!

Thanks raw and Kayak. I'm hoping someone else will pop up out of the woodwork and make a better bid!

The Effect of Political Correctness and Government Policies on Education




Teaching maths in 1970

1. A logger sells a truckload of timber for 100.

His cost of production is 4/5 of the price.

What is his profit?


2. Teaching Maths In 1980

A logger sells a truckload of timber for 100.

His cost of production is 80% of the price.

What is his profit?


3. Teaching Maths In 1990

A logger sells a truckload of timber for 100.

His cost of production is 80.

How much was his profit?


4. Teaching Maths In 2000

A logger sells a truckload of timber for 100.

His cost of production is 80 and his profit is
20..

Your assignment: Underline the number 20.


5. Teaching Maths In 2005

A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is
selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the
habit of animals or the preservation of our woodlands.
Your assignment: Discuss how the birds and squirrels
might feel as the logger cut down their homes just for
a measly profit of 20.


6. Teaching Maths In 2009

A logger is arrested for trying to cut down a tree in case
it may be offensive to Muslims or other religious
groups not consulted in the felling licence. He is
also fined a 100 as his chainsaw is in breach of
Health and Safety legislation as it deemed too
dangerous and could cut something. He has used the
chainsaw for over 20 years without incident however he does
not have the correct certificate of competence and is
therefore considered to be a recidivist and habitual
criminal. His DNA is sampled and his details
circulated throughout all government agencies. He
protests and is taken to court and fined another 100
because he is such an easy target. When he is released he
returns t o find Gypsies have cut down half his wood
to build a camp on his land. He tries to throw them
off but is arrested, prosecuted for harassing an ethnic
minority, imprisoned and fined a further 100. While
he is in jail the Gypsies cut down the rest of his
wood and sell it on the black market for 100 cash. They
also have a leaving BBQ of squirrel and pheasant and
depart leaving behind several tonnes of rubbish and
asbestos sheeting. The forester on release is warned
that failure to clear the fly tipped rubbish
immediately at his own cost is an offence. He
complains and is arrested for environmental pollution,
breach of the peace and invoiced 12,000 plus VAT for
safe disposal costs by a regulated government contractor.


Your assignment: How many times is the logger going
to have to be arrested and fined before he realises that he
is never going to make 20 profit by hard work, give
up, sign onto the dole and live off the state for the
rest of his life?


7. Teaching Maths In 2010

A logger doesnt sell a lorry load of timber
because he cant get a loan to buy a new lorry
because his bank has spent all his and their money on a
derivative of securitised debt related to sub-prime
mortgages in Alabama and lost the lot with only some
government money left to pay a few million pound bonuses to
their senior directors and the traders who made the
biggest losses.


The logger struggles to pay the 1,200 road tax on
his old lorry however, as it was built in the 1970s it
no longer meets the emissions regulations and he is
forced to scrap it.


Some Bulgarian loggers buy the lorry from the scrap
merchant and put it back on the road. They undercut everyone
on price for haulage and send their cash back home,
while claiming unemployment for themselves and their
relatives. If questioned they speak no English and it
is easier to deport them at the governments expense.
Following their holiday back home they return to the
UK with different names and fresh girls and start
again. The logger protests, is accused of being a bigoted
racist and as his name is on the side of his old lorry
he is forced to pay 1,500 registration fees as a
gang master.


The Government borrows more money to pay more to the
bankers as bonus's are not cheap. The parliamentarians
feel they are missing out and claim the difference on
expenses and allowances.

You do the maths.


8. Teaching Maths 2017

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